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Spanik
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: why Gentoo sucks, and why it will ultimately die Reply with quote

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It is still the easiest to customise, try disabling Wayland on Fedora or Debian for example, it is a PITA compared to Gentoo.

You can't sidable it in Gentoo either. I have a general use flag -wayland and parts of it are pulled in from several packages that depend on it. Same with systemd, same with pulseaudio, same with pipewire and likely lots other stuff I really have no use for but cannot keep out of it.

What I find scary is that almost every package has slots these days. and slot conflicts are becoming more and more an issue.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:41 pm    Post subject: Re: why Gentoo sucks, and why it will ultimately die Reply with quote

Spanik wrote:
Same with systemd, same with pulseaudio, same with pipewire and likely lots other stuff I really have no use for but cannot keep out of it.

What I find scary is that almost every package has slots these days. and slot conflicts are becoming more and more an issue.
With none of these I have problems.
No systemd, no pulseaudio (but pipewire enabled, intentionally).
And lastly I've not seen slot conflicts in ages on my systems.
I even have USE="-logind -elogind" set globally.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2024 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't had too much issue with slot conflicts. The main problem is not wanting to upgrade or delete software that got last rited out of the main portage tree or the ebuild isn't updated if in an overlay.
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