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neuron Advocate
Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 2371
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 9:49 pm Post subject: mounting iso/bin's |
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I know you can mount iso's with -o loop and -t iso9660, but is there any -t for bin files? or other quite standard image formats? (such as ccd, dunno what extended data they have in those) |
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delta407 Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Apr 2002 Posts: 2876 Location: Chicago, IL
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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BIN/CUE is a weird format, ISO is standard. You can convert between them by using, say, bchunk if you want -- or you could just not use BIN, because it's dumb. |
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474 l33t
Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 714
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | or you could just not use BIN, because it's dumb |
That's a little unfair. I think BIN images are dumped in RAW mode, where as ISOs usually are not (I think they call that COOKED mode by contrast). CDs use block sizes of 2352 where only 2048 bytes are used for data. The rest is reserved for error checking and correction information used by the reader's firmware. A RAW image (such as the BIN format) will have all of those bytes (2352 sector), instead of the data portion only (2048 bytes of each sector). This is useful, if you want an exact replica of the CD, otherwise the burner will re-generate the ECC information. This causes problems for copy-protected CDs (Playstation CDs for example, deliberately have the ECC bytes zeroed out), not that I would ever condone the copying of such CDs .... naturally .... !!! |
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neuron Advocate
Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 2371
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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bin IS a standard, and it is a better image than a img file... is there a way? |
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fuxored n00b
Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 71
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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Well I use .bin images to back up my psx games onto my pc(I get nasty lag from cdrom) The Emulator is able to play the game directly from the .bin image, so yes it's possible. I don't what it uses to do it though, sorry. |
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neuron Advocate
Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 2371
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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I know a few apps has support to read it, but unfortunatly not everything, stuff like wine for example, is not capable of doing this. |
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neuron Advocate
Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 2371
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Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2002 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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to clearify why I wanna do it
I got a athlon 1.2ghz at 1.4ghz, I got 3 hd's, and a overclocked display adapter, the box gets too hot = I plugged in a shitload of more fan's, then it got to noisy, so.. I drilled a hole through the wall and ran extension cables through, now I got the box with a shitload of fans in a quite ventilated room
though changing cd's is work... on windows I simply used daemon-tools (confusing name for a nix user ), made 1:1 copy's, ccd's or bin's, and mounted em, instead of leaving the room all the time. |
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nempo Guru
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 360 Location: Linkoping, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:51 am Post subject: |
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the bin file is a 1:1 copy of a cd (I think) so its pretty hard telling where tracks start and end (shouldnt be cause its 1:1 ;D). However the starting and ending of the tracks are noted in the cue file.
Unlike iso files bin files can contain loads of different filesystems incl. audio |
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neuron Advocate
Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 2371
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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I can easily mount some bin files, as they have practicly the same format as iso's, but I can't mount those with several tracks (and most do have that theese days, stuff like safedisc uses it for example). |
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Swishy Guru
Joined: 06 Jun 2002 Posts: 491 Location: NZ
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Itsnt deamon tools available for linux????????
I could be wrong...... _________________ Theres no substitute for C.I. |
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Utoxin Guru
Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 413 Location: American Fork, UT
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Swishy wrote: | Itsnt deamon tools available for linux????????
I could be wrong...... |
Wrong daemon tools. The one you're thinking of is exactly what it sounds like. The one he mentioned is a tool in windows for (I would guess) copying CDs to your hard drive. |
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Swishy Guru
Joined: 06 Jun 2002 Posts: 491 Location: NZ
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2002 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Thought so ... guess I should have checked first .............
cheers for the reply though _________________ Theres no substitute for C.I. |
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_DW_ n00b
Joined: 14 Jun 2002 Posts: 5 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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have you tried emulating deamon tools with wine or winex? Myabe it i'll work
I some times emulate Nero burning rom to burn cdrw with wine, works good. |
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neuron Advocate
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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_DW_ wrote: | have you tried emulating deamon tools with wine or winex? Myabe it i'll work
I some times emulate Nero burning rom to burn cdrw with wine, works good. |
daemon-tools is built into windows as a fake device driver, so that won't work.
though I will try nero, I love nero and didn't think about running it under wine |
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