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Hi
I've got an AMD64 with 1GB of RAM, 1 GB of swap. After about 8 hrs of running xorg (not using, just running, I'm not at the computer) it eats all the RAM and fills the swap. At that moment the only solution is a reboot, because the computer is too slow (I could wait an hour to react to a xorg restart).. If I notice early soon, I can restart xorg and everything is normal...
After I upgraded to the modular xorg things are worse.. I've got the last NVIDIA drivers (1.0-8762)...
X Window System Version 7.0.0
Release Date: 21 December 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.16-gentoo-r9 x86_64
Current Operating System: Linux seststiri 2.6.16-gentoo-r9 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jun 7 22:21:13 CEST 2006 x86_64
Build Date: 17 July 2006
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What window manager are you running?
Did you compile with gcc 3.x or 4.x? |
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Hi,
Do you have something in Xorg log file?
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| Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:04 am Post subject: Since you have a memory leak |
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Pre modular X and post modular, nkib is probably on to something with the
Tool Chain or system files you might try.
Then reemerge xorg.
You might try
to see if you have more than one version of gcc, you may also set which one to use there
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While you are at it, upgrade to Xorg 7.1.
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Tnx for the tips guys. I've tried them (almost) all.
I've upgaded the system, so I had to rebuild almost everything (revdep-rebuild is a good friend here:)...Now I've got a really up to date system, but with the same problem.
The compiler: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.6
(I didn't upgrade to gcc 4.1 because glibc 2.4 does not compile under 2.6.16-gentoo-r9 which is a documented bug)
Xorg: X Window System Version 7.0.0 (nvidia driver 1.0.8762-r1)
(Didn't upgrade to 7.1 because of the nvidia drivers that block it and I've read on the forums that they don't work together yet)
What I've noticed. When rebuilding kde 3.5.4 was not usable (broken libraries) so I've run fluxbox for about 24h, there RAM was never full it even emptied when closing applications, Xorg never utilized more than 10% (on 1GB RAM). I was even using firefox-bin which is a memory hog... Now with kde 3.5.4 I've got the same problem as before...in 4-6 hours the RAM + swap fills up and the system becames unusable (I've got to reset).
So I think there is something with applications that eat a lot of RAM or maybe in KDE + Xorg on AMD64?
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| mclion wrote: | | ...Now with kde 3.5.4 |
Strange, latest version for me is 3.5.2-r2, but I'm not on AMD64...
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Do you have default KDE desktop or have you customized it? Installed new themes, put some weird applets running on taskbar, using SuperKaramba or similar to get those desktop applications...?
I suspect some custom application is eating up all the memory. It's not X.org which is eating memory, but it only looks like it: when (for example) some application allocates memory for it's picture bitmap data, it probably shows as Xorg memory usage, even though it's actually some other program using it.
Please post ps aux output while you're logged in to KDE.
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| Janne Pikkarainen wrote: | | ...I suspect some custom application is eating up all the memory... |
Or an OpenGL screensaver without hardware acceleration ?
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| jean-marc.beaune wrote: | | While you are at it, upgrade to Xorg 7.1. |
If you're using the nvidia-drivers, do not upgrade to 7.1, they don't work with it yet. Just use Xorg 7.0.
| jean-marc.beaune wrote: | | mclion wrote: | | ...Now with kde 3.5.4 |
Strange, latest version for me is 3.5.2-r2, but I'm not on AMD64... |
They're in ~arch.
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No costum applications. The screensaver is "blank screen".
The problem has something to do with the 64bit architecture. Have the same setup on a P4 with no problems.
It looks like that xorg does not free mem if you pass some % RAM limit.. With a small WM (fluxbox) everything works as expected... |
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I bet this is not related to 64 bit architecture. My desktop is also an Athlon64 3000+ box with a pure 64-bit Gentoo installation running with KDE and no memory woes so far (since last August).
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| Janne Pikkarainen wrote: | | Please post ps aux output while you're logged in to KDE. |
Please do! And while you're at it, also post emerge --info.
I also have KDE on AMD64 without any trouble.
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I've noticed that all my memory is being eaten up by Xorg>7.1.
| Code: | yamamushi@lotus ~ $ free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 1280044 1258496 21548 0 50932 849076
-/+ buffers/cache: 358488 921556
Swap: 16024828 150920 15873908
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| yamamushi wrote: | I've noticed that all my memory is being eaten up by Xorg>7.1.
| Code: | yamamushi@lotus ~ $ free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 1280044 1258496 21548 0 50932 849076
-/+ buffers/cache: 358488 921556
Swap: 16024828 150920 15873908
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No, it is not. Please notice the cached and buffers columns: most of your memory is used by kernel for file cache. That's the way Linux uses memory. Loading a file from RAM is much quicker than loading it from disk. Should any application need memory, those cached pages can be quickly thrown away and given to application.
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So how much memory do I have? Am I okay in this department?
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yamamushi: Your computer seems to have around 1256 MB (or roughly 1.2 GB) RAM. Applications are currently using (about) 1256 MB - (845 MB + 50 MB + 21 MB) = 340 MB of it, the rest is used for cache. Seems to be pretty normal, if you run stuff like KDE + Firefox + some other programs.
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So this is normal? I also have a amd64 system and have noticed this. I have noticed if I close all open programs (other than kde) it never restores any free memory. Mine does it most if start my icecast service. Seems no matter what I do I cant free up any memory without rebooting.
Here is mem stats
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free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 1538764 1504844 33920 0 66140 1062520
-/+ buffers/cache: 376184 1162580
Swap: 2104504 348 2104156
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| k1ll1nt1m3 wrote: | So this is normal? I also have a amd64 system and have noticed this. I have noticed if I close all open programs (other than kde) it never restores any free memory. Mine does it most if start my icecast service. Seems no matter what I do I cant free up any memory without rebooting.
Here is mem stats
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free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 1538764 1504844 33920 0 66140 1062520
-/+ buffers/cache: 376184 1162580
Swap: 2104504 348 2104156
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You might want to check which processes are using up the memory: ps aux | sort +5nr | head -n 10 shows you ten most currently running memory hungry processes.
But your overall situation doesn't look that bad: from total of 1.5 GB RAM your system is using nearly 1.1 GB for cache.
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I rebooted after my post last night. My girls have been playing games and other stuff all morning. I didnt start icecast last night.
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top - 09:43:51 up 11:17, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.14, 0.26
Tasks: 103 total, 1 running, 102 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
Cpu(s): 1.8% us, 0.1% sy, 0.0% ni, 97.8% id, 0.2% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.1% si
Mem: 1538764k total, 373348k used, 1165416k free, 18184k buffers
Swap: 2104504k total, 0k used, 2104504k free, 177076k cached
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I couldnt get ps aux | sort +5nr | head -n 10 to work so
I did this ps aux | sort -n | head -n 10
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ps aux | sort -n | head -n 10
Jordan 7568 0.0 0.0 5732 1324 ? Ss 09:43 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/kde/3.5/bin/startkde
Jordan 7606 0.0 0.5 68780 9072 ? Ss 09:43 0:00 kdeinit Running...
Jordan 7609 0.0 0.2 68884 3156 ? S 09:43 0:00 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid
Jordan 7611 0.0 0.5 71976 9128 ? S 09:43 0:00 klauncher [kdeinit]
Jordan 7613 0.0 0.9 103296 15248 ? S 09:43 0:00 kded [kdeinit]
Jordan 7615 0.0 0.1 9048 1592 ? S 09:43 0:00 /usr/libexec/gam_server
Jordan 7623 0.3 1.2 180916 18996 ? S 09:43 0:04 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
Jordan 7625 0.0 0.6 72720 10284 ? S 09:43 0:00 kaccess [kdeinit]
Jordan 7628 0.0 0.0 2556 388 ? S 09:43 0:00 kwrapper ksmserver
Jordan 7630 0.0 0.6 71704 10596 ? S 09:43 0:00 ksmserver [kdeinit]
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I cant figure out the +
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ps aux | sort +5nr | head -n 10
sort: open failed: +5nr: No such file or directory
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Edit: I have also found k3b will use all free memory burning a cd. It doesnt free up after closing k3b either.
Wine also does the same. |
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Try these
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# ps -e v --sort=vsize |
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Thanks. Here are the ones shown using memory
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7985 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 0 0.0 [pdflush]
9812 ? S 0:00 0 9 2542 388 0.0 kwrapper ksmserver
1 ? Ss 0:02 7 31 2540 548 0.0 init [3]
7228 tty3 Ss+ 0:00 1 14 3621 676 0.0 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty3 linux
7234 tty6 Ss+ 0:00 1 14 3621 676 0.0 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty6 linux
7226 tty1 Ss+ 0:00 1 14 3625 672 0.0 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty1 linux
7227 tty2 Ss+ 0:00 1 14 3625 676 0.0 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty2 linux
7229 tty4 Ss+ 0:00 1 14 3625 676 0.0 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty4 linux
7232 tty5 Ss+ 0:00 1 14 3625 672 0.0 /sbin/agetty 38400 tty5 linux
6710 ? Ss 0:00 0 43 3616 228 0.0 /sbin/dhcpcd -h mail eth0
6151 ? S 0:00 0 20 3747 208 0.0 metalog [KERNEL]
6150 ? Ss 0:00 0 20 3759 556 0.0 metalog [MASTER]
9906 pts/1 R+ 0:00 0 72 3971 796 0.0 ps -e v --sort=vsize
9752 ? Ss 0:00 0 696 5035 1324 0.0 /bin/sh /usr/kde/3.5/bin/startkde
9852 ? S 0:00 0 696 5163 1508 0.0 /bin/bash /usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher /tmp/gaim8OHuYS
1307 ? S<s 0:00 0 50 6989 704 0.0 /sbin/udevd --daemon
9799 ? S 0:00 0 58 8989 1592 0.1 /usr/libexec/gam_server
9895 pts/1 Ss 0:00 1 696 9471 1844 0.1 /bin/bash
6227 ? Ss 0:00 0 133 10950 708 0.0 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kdm
7088 ? Ss 0:00 0 472 13015 1328 0.0 proftpd: (accepting connections)
9865 ? S 0:00 3 56 20335 2360 0.1 /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 10
6926 ? Ss 0:01 7 223 20560 5164 0.3 /usr/sbin/cupsd
9741 ? S 0:00 0 133 27034 1452 0.0 -:0
7204 ? Ss 0:00 1 1011 30304 7424 0.4 /usr/bin/perl /usr/libexec/webmin/miniserv.pl /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf
7012 ? Ss 0:00 2 1011 43032 24996 1.6 /usr/bin/perl -I/usr/lib64/gnump3d -w # -*- cperl -*- # /usr/bin/gnump3d2 --quiet
7002 ? S 0:00 0 361 49582 1956 0.1 /usr/sbin/apache2 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -d /usr/lib64/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -k start
6861 ? Ss 0:00 0 361 49654 2484 0.1 /usr/sbin/apache2 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -d /usr/lib64/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -k start
7003 ? S 0:00 0 361 49654 2472 0.1 /usr/sbin/apache2 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -d /usr/lib64/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -k start
7004 ? S 0:00 0 361 49654 2472 0.1 /usr/sbin/apache2 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -d /usr/lib64/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -k start
7005 ? S 0:00 0 361 49654 2460 0.1 /usr/sbin/apache2 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -d /usr/lib64/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -k start
7006 ? S 0:00 0 361 49654 2480 0.1 /usr/sbin/apache2 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -d /usr/lib64/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -k start
7007 ? S 0:00 0 361 49654 2456 0.1 /usr/sbin/apache2 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -d /usr/lib64/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -k start
9749 ? S 0:00 0 361 49654 2012 0.1 /usr/sbin/apache2 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -d /usr/lib64/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -k start
6230 tty7 SLs+ 2:23 48 1700 51891 15512 1.0 /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-55CYjq
9790 ? Ss 0:00 0 43 68732 9068 0.5 kdeinit Running...
9793 ? S 0:00 0 43 68836 3152 0.2 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid
9814 ? S 0:00 0 43 71656 10616 0.6 ksmserver [kdeinit]
9795 ? S 0:00 2 43 71924 9124 0.5 klauncher [kdeinit]
9809 ? S 0:00 0 43 72672 10284 0.6 kaccess [kdeinit]
9904 ? SN 0:00 0 43 72940 10972 0.7 kio_thumbnail [kdeinit] thumbnail /tmp/ksocket-Jordan/klauncherGvWf2b.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-Jordan/kdesktop0cOnBb.slave-socket
9824 ? S 0:00 0 43 74264 8728 0.5 kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-Jordan/klauncherGvWf2b.slave-socket /tmp/ksocket-Jordan/kdesktopv4K8pa.slave-socket
9815 ? S 0:00 1 43 80608 13448 0.8 kwin [kdeinit] -session 1014cd7d2d4000114752614400000125560000_1156124220_285954
9817 ? S 0:00 4 43 82996 16316 1.0 kdesktop [kdeinit]
9894 ? S 0:00 6 43 83920 16104 1.0 konsole [kdeinit]
9819 ? S 0:00 0 43 92748 17124 1.1 kicker [kdeinit]
9797 ? S 0:00 0 43 103248 15244 0.9 kded [kdeinit]
9823 ? S 0:00 0 43 104380 14864 0.9 knotify [kdeinit]
9807 ? S 0:00 0 194 180721 18996 1.2 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
9861 ? Sl 0:04 106 74 278637 46988 3.0 /usr/lib64/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin file:///tmp/gaim8OHuYS
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Edit: I have also found k3b will use all free memory burning a cd. It doesnt free up after closing k3b either.
Wine also does the same.
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This is not a bug:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=175419 |
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Heh, so my problem is like unique.. the problem is that when X eats all the memory, I cannot do anything (only reset) so I have to be lucky to get to the PC the right moment  ) (yes it fills without using it, during the night for example):
This is from free:
| Code: | total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 1028044 1018556 9488 0 7000 117944
-/+ buffers/cache: 893612 134432
Swap: 995988 982744 13244 |
This was before rebooting..now after 2 hours of work I have a situation like that:
| Code: | free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 1028044 1016384 11660 0 16920 312660
-/+ buffers/cache: 686804 341240
Swap: 995988 300704 695284
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ps -e v --sort=rss | tail -n 10
6685 ? S 0:00 28 44 109791 16244 1.5 kded [kdeinit] --new-startup
6712 ? S 0:01 15 44 84195 16616 1.6 konsole [kdeinit] -session 1014fd9dce6000115602125000000217200010_1156097515_292892
6697 ? S 0:12 29 44 98499 19148 1.8 kicker [kdeinit]
6713 ? S 0:01 96 44 127811 30664 2.9 konqueror [kdeinit] -session 1014fd9dce6000115602210200000217200016_1156097515_154166
7737 ? S 0:04 446 757 171518 40864 3.9 kopete -caption Kopete -icon kopete -miniicon kopete
6724 ? S 0:05 85 3327 133660 45144 4.3 quanta -session 1014fd9dce6000115608309500000066810015_1156097515_510069
7612 ? Sl 0:14 196 242 198493 65720 6.3 /usr/lib32/openoffice/program/soffice.bin -writer
6749 ? Sl 4:29 286 9539 143972 82848 8.0 /opt/firefox/firefox-bin
7751 ? Sl 1:16 457 52 609883 201416 19.5 /usr/lib/jvm/sun-jdk-1.5/bin/java -classpath /usr/share/bcprov/lib/bcprov.jar::/usr/share/swt-3/lib/swt.jar:/usr/share/junit/lib/junit.jar:/usr/share/log4j/lib/log4j.jar:/usr/share/azureus/lib/Azureus2.jar:/usr/share/commons-cli-1/lib/commons-cli.jar -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib64 org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main
5383 tty7 SLs+ 3:08 55 1700 587135 258460 25.1 /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-fTZf8Y
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ps -e v --sort=vsize | tail -n 10
6713 ? S 0:01 96 44 127811 30660 2.9 konqueror [kdeinit] -session 1014fd9dce6000115602210200000217200016_1156097515_154166
6309 ? Ss 0:00 3 368 131379 6648 0.6 /usr/sbin/apache2 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -D PHP5 -D USERDIR -d /usr/lib64/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -k start
6724 ? S 0:05 85 3327 133660 45140 4.3 quanta -session 1014fd9dce6000115608309500000066810015_1156097515_510069
6749 ? Rl 4:29 286 9539 143976 82876 8.0 /opt/firefox/firefox-bin
7737 ? R 0:04 446 757 171518 40860 3.9 kopete -caption Kopete -icon kopete -miniicon kopete
7612 ? Sl 0:14 196 242 198493 58036 5.6 /usr/lib32/openoffice/program/soffice.bin -writer
6411 ? Sl 0:00 0 368 352671 5388 0.5 /usr/sbin/apache2 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -D PHP5 -D USERDIR -d /usr/lib64/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -k start
6413 ? Sl 0:00 0 368 352671 5392 0.5 /usr/sbin/apache2 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -D PHP5 -D USERDIR -d /usr/lib64/apache2 -f /etc/apache2/httpd.conf -k start
5383 tty7 RLs+ 3:10 55 1700 587243 257596 25.0 /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-fTZf8Y
7751 ? Sl 1:17 457 52 615003 205656 20.0 /usr/lib/jvm/sun-jdk-1.5/bin/java -classpath /usr/share/bcprov/lib/bcprov.jar::/usr/share/swt-3/lib/swt.jar:/usr/share/junit/lib/junit.jar:/usr/share/log4j/lib/log4j.jar:/usr/share/azureus/lib/Azureus2.jar:/usr/share/commons-cli-1/lib/commons-cli.jar -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib64 org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main
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Gentoo on AMD64
