do you ever emerge world?

0x001A4 · Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: do you ever emerge world?

How many of you actually run an emerge world? and how often?

I was thinking about this today because I just got my system up and going. I needed the latest
stable version of xorg, but after that I turned my accept_keywords on to ~amd64. So now I know if
I ever run an emerge world its guaranteed to break my system.

EDIT: Also, if I turned off the accept_keywords and did an emerge world, would it downgrade all my masked packages?

Drac · n00b Joined: 09 Aug 2006 Posts: 36

Ive run it when I upgraded GCC, changed USE flags, and switched to ~x86, so three times. And unless there in /etc/portage/package.keywords then yes it will downgrade your ~arch packages.
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runningwithscissors · Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject:

The dialup restricts me from doing that.

mikl · Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject:

I'm upgrade-aholic - I run emerge -uDavN world a several times each week

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0x001A4 · Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: do you ever emerge world?

Monkeh · Veteran Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Posts: 1656 Location: England

Updating to 7.1 won't break a thing unless you use binary drivers. If you do, just mask 7.1?

Q-collective · Advocate Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 2071

Normally every once a day.

mikegpitt · Advocate Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 3224

I do 'emerge -Du system' and 'emerge -Du world' every so often, although recently I've been trying to keep up to date more so. If the list simply is too long I woudl suggest going in stages, knocking ebuilds off the list, until you finally do the emerge -Du world.

BTW - I run a mostly stable system... a few packages I had to unmask for various reasons.

Also to anwser your question, if you change from non-stable to stable then on your next emerge -Du world portage will downgrade all your packages as appropriate.

0x001A4 · Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject:

awesome, well I may just wait until the nvidia drivers are supported by xorg7.1 before I do an emerge world, which will make it a very large list..

or perhaps I will try out the nv drivers and if that goes well, I will update everything sooner then later. Oh and instead of making a new thread, does anyone know if I can go through the same process to turn direct rendering on as I would with the nvidia driver? Or is that even possible with the nv driver?

drwook · Veteran Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 1324 Location: London

my advice, FWIW, mask xorg 7.1 & wait for compatible nvidia drivers unless you don't need direct rendering (i.e. unless you play no 3d games)

sageman · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:22 pm Post subject:

I emerge -u world probably twice a week or so. I typically check what is to be upgraded and if it's nothing interesting, just wait a couple days and bang out more packages at once. I use to do emerge -uD world, but, that little "D" seemed to (eventually) break packages, and didn't really seem to add anything. After all, if I emerge -u world and a package *needs* a new version of a library, it'll pull it in, but, IMHO, there's no reason to upgrade *working* libraries and such if they aren't required. I mean, I do glsa-check, of course, so I will get new libraries and such if there is a specific reason to do so, but I won't upgrade them *just because*.

I have mostly packages from the stable arch, with a growing number of testing ones from ~x86, notably GCC 4.1.1. My package.keywords seems to be growing and growing. I even have some hard-masked packages unmasked, but probably only 3 or 4 of them.
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dr_strange · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject:

I use my http://magenta.linuxforum.hu/downloads/pye script to determine what I want to upgrade from world and do it almost every day or every other day.
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sohalt · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 115

I am looking at the packages.gentoo.org feed and if there is a new version of a program which I use directly, I update world. So 1-2 times every week.

Su8l1me · n00b Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Posts: 31

Well I tend not to do it very often at all manually.

I have a cron job which runs nightly that does an emerge -Ud world for me

sageman · Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject:

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mirojira · l33t Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 685

I do not want to spend too much time compiling many packages. I run emerge system every week and emerge world once per month. In the past I run only emerge system. When I run emerge world after 8 month it took whole night and morning.

Kysen · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 26 Nov 2004 Posts: 128

I normally do it once a week, or longer if i forget or dont care.

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dkostic · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:17 am Post subject: Re: do you ever emerge world?