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AYBABTU
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Just installed. I got less fps in glxgears than 8.27.10, and the fan is more noise  |
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peterk0
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| Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| glxgears are no longer a good benchmark as of 8.27.10, if you want to really benchmark them, run some game with both drivers and see the fps |
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AYBABTU
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| Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:50 am Post subject: |
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| peterk0 wrote: | | glxgears are no longer a good benchmark as of 8.27.10, if you want to really benchmark them, run some game with both drivers and see the fps |
I have a x1800; i can't see any difference in-game  |
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Aynone know if the r200/250 problems have been fixed in this one? Hate to run 8.24.* still...
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Hmm the longer the more I think that ATI have improved more than NVIDIAs meanwhile. More drivers updates and hence here they are very stable. Great job AMD 
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Gusar
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| Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Phlogiston wrote: | | Hmm the longer the more I think that ATI have improved more than NVIDIAs meanwhile. More drivers updates and hence here they are very stable. Great job AMD |
I wouldn't say that. These drivers still don't have xv. If you don't know, xv was one of the ABI breakages for xorg7.1. So I fail to see how ATI can claim 7.1 support if it's clear that they haven't updated the necessary stuff to make everything work. More updates don't automatically mean more features or stabler code.
I also fail to see what AMD has to do with it, the takeover hasn't happened yet and it will probably take months before all formalities are taken care of.
Another thing is the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap extension needed for AIGLX. How long do you think will it take ATI to support that? I bet a lot longer than nvidia. |
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| hmm... no ebuild yet? |
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| warhawk wrote: | | hmm... no ebuild yet? |
just copy ati-drivers-8.27.10-r1.ebuild to ati-drivers-8.28.8.ebuild, digest it and You got it.
Edit: You will need to remove -x86 and -x86_64 from SRC_URI.
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| Gusar wrote: | | Phlogiston wrote: | | Hmm the longer the more I think that ATI have improved more than NVIDIAs meanwhile. More drivers updates and hence here they are very stable. Great job AMD |
I wouldn't say that. These drivers still don't have xv. If you don't know, xv was one of the ABI breakages for xorg7.1. So I fail to see how ATI can claim 7.1 support if it's clear that they haven't updated the necessary stuff to make everything work. More updates don't automatically mean more features or stabler code.
I also fail to see what AMD has to do with it, the takeover hasn't happened yet and it will probably take months before all formalities are taken care of.
Another thing is the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap extension needed for AIGLX. How long do you think will it take ATI to support that? I bet a lot longer than nvidia. |
I'm not sure how true this is but: | Code: |
lxinfo | grep texture_fr
GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_OML_swap_method,
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The thing about AMD was just a joke
Furthermore the new updates mean new features! I mean they added some interesting stuff in my case.
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prymitive
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| Phlogiston wrote: |
I'm not sure how true this is but: | Code: |
lxinfo | grep texture_fr
GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_OML_swap_method,
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It's in server glx extensions so only X server has GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap support, if it was in client glx extensions than the drivers would support it. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject: Issue with dualhead |
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I read that this release finally had support for different resolution on dual heads. So I thought I would test it out with, I'm running xorg 7.1 and have Xpress200M. Works great, sort, except for one thing my laptop display is 1280x800 and my external is 1280x1024 (with older drivers had to run the second had at 1024x768), looks good till I move the mouse from the main screen to the next and back, now I have any where from 20px to 180px roughly off the calibration of the mouse  . Hopefully they get this fixed, might be any issue with Xorg 7.1 as well, but I haven't had a chance to downgrade and check... to bad. |
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| prymitive wrote: | | warhawk wrote: | | hmm... no ebuild yet? |
just copy ati-drivers-8.27.10-r1.ebuild to ati-drivers-8.28.8.ebuild, digest it and You got it.
Edit: You will need to remove -x86 and -x86_64 from SRC_URI. |
works for me  unfortunately, the fan still spins up for no reason, have to manually lower the clock with rovlock... |
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what about the official ebuild?
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| I can finally use it with my Dell 2405 flat panel! However I was thinking of trying transparency which means going back to the radeon driver in xorg. Ugh! |
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If you use xgl and compiz it works perfectly... or almost anyway.
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| bushwakko wrote: | | If you use xgl and compiz it works perfectly... or almost anyway. |
You talking about the transparency issue? I thought you had to add Composite in the xorg.conf, which turns off dri in the ati-drivers. Whenever I added it, fglrxinfo showed Mesa instead of ATI. |
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| Gusar wrote: | | These drivers still don't have xv |
Could you elaborate on that please, I've heard this several times now but I don't quite understand exactly what "xorg 7.[01]" means.
I (currently) have ati-drivers-8.27.10, xorg-x11-7.1 and xorg-server-1.1.1-r2 (this, apparently, is from my xgl-coffee overlay. So what does this mean? Do or Don't I have xorg-7.1? Because I DO have the XVideo extension and it DOES work as I regularly watch video with mplayer -vo xv.
Now I haven't tried the official ebuild yet, but I did copy the 8.27.10 ebuild to my overlay and emerged the new drivers. But now it seems that xvideo is buggy as hell. It does still work, but very often when I start a movie the whole xserver will hang. Only a reboot will fix it, logging in via ssh and killing the server doesn't help.
So now I'm back to 8.27.10 and what I wondered was: If ati claims to have improved the support for xorg-7.[01], then why is it suddenly bugging out on me?
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Gusar
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| Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Da Fox wrote: | | Gusar wrote: | | These drivers still don't have xv |
Could you elaborate on that please |
Well, I don't have an ATI card. But I was very curious about this driver, so I checked the changelog and found this in it: | Quote: | | Users with X Server X.org 7.1 can not play any video using XV. |
I couldn't believe it. I watch a lot of video, so a driver without xv is useless for me. This means that even though these drivers claim support for xorg 7.1, I would still need to stay with xorg 7.0 if I had an ATI card.
| Da Fox wrote: | | So now I'm back to 8.27.10 and what I wondered was: If ati claims to have improved the support for xorg-7.[01], then why is it suddenly bugging out on me? |
It's quite simple - what ATI claims is not true. If these drivers really supported xorg 7.1, then xv would be working.
We nvidia users had to wait a bit longer for a new driver. But at least it supports xv properly. |
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| Quote: | | Users with X Server X.org 7.1 can not play any video using XV. |
The exact same line is present in the release notes for 8.27.10.
However it works perfectly for me, and I don't understand why so I want to know.
And it does work (a bit) in 8.28.8, it just crashed out _alot_ for me. So their statement that you can not play any video using XV is false: you can in fact, even with 8.28.8, play some video with XV. It's just a question when it will crash.
But I'd still like to know what version of xorg-server gives me 'true' xorg-x11-7.1, and how running xorg-x11 with 'mixed' version for the different components affects me in general. eg: Are there any drawbacks to using the '7.0 xorg-server' with more uptodate '7.1' parts of xorg or the ati-drivers? I don't suppose so, because that was part of the point of having a modular xorg but it's nice to hear it from someone else :p
| Quote: | | We nvidia users had to wait a bit longer for a new driver. But at least it supports xv properly. |
At least for me personally, ati-drivers-8.28.8 are the first to give me some 'real' trouble
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Users with X Server X.org 7.1 can not play any video using XV. |
really should have been followed up on -- see the FULL quote
| Quote: | | Users with X Server X.org 7.1 can not play any video using XV. The ATI AVIVO Video adaptor is not present. Further details and the workaround can be found in topic number 737-22852 |
and if you follow up on that you find this ->
| Quote: | The information in this article applies to the following configuration(s):
ATI Propriatery 8.27.10 display driver
Radeon® X1900 series
Radeon® X1800 series
Radeon® X1600 series
Radeon® X1300 series
Red Hat Enterprise Linux suite
Novell/SuSE product suite
Users will be unable to play back video in Xorg7.1 using XVideo. A message indicating that the ATI AVIVO Video adapter is not present will be displayed. |
Which explains why my 9660 works just fine.
(and -- Tiger -- not nitro no more -- now beyond)
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| Can you log out of X and back in without freezing in this release? I haven't been able to do that since the 8.23 version. I am using startx and not K/G/XDM. |
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Thanks for the ebuild vipernicus.
But I still have a problem when unpacking the source:
>>> Unpacking source...
* Unpacking Ati drivers ... [ !! ]
!!! ERROR: x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.28.8 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1539: Called dyn_unpack
ebuild.sh, line 711: Called src_unpack
ati-drivers-8.28.8.ebuild, line 142: Called die
Ati-drivers 8.27.10-r1 emerged without any problems. When I comment out line 142 this error occurs:
>>> Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.28.8 ...
* Building the DRM module...
/usr/local/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers/ati-drivers-8.28.8.ebuild: line 162: cd: /var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.28.8/work/common/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod: No such file or directory
ln: creating symbolic link `./libfglrx_ip.a.GCC3' to `/var/tmp/portage/ati-drivers-8.28.8/work/arch/x86/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/libfglrx_ip.a.GCC3': File exists
!!! ERROR: x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.28.8 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1539: Called dyn_compile
ebuild.sh, line 939: Called src_compile
ati-drivers-8.28.8.ebuild, line 165: Called die
Has anybody already managed to install the drivers? |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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alarionfin,
have you renamed the ebuild?
you cann't extract the needed files to build fglrx module!
I have posted my-own ebuild for this driver release in Desktop Environment forum with few steps, pleace take a look at it!
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