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 Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject: HDMI DVI bad fonts |
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Hello all,
I recently got my Pioneer plasma setup using a DVI cable that converts to HDMI (video card VI and TV HDMI). The TV has both HDMI and VGA inputs.
The TV support 1920x1080i and and I am running the resolution from the vcard into it. When I use VGA, the fonts look fine - but when I use HDMI, the fonts are very difficult the read. Also, the Stuff oges off the screen by a little bit. Wondering if there is a zoom can use to bring the edges in som and also how do i clean up the fonts? is there a zoom for the fonts?
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simeli
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Location: Switzerland, Zurich
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I have a Pioneer 436XDE Plasma and would also like to run from my Macmini PPC via DVI-HDMI Cable to the Pioneer. Using MacOS this is a no brainer, plug in and it outputs everything in 1280x720 on the Plasma. However I cannot get Xorg to do the same.
Even though my Pioneer supports 1080i the panel only has 768 vertical lines. the internal scaler does the conversion. The stuff that goes off screen is due to the overscan of the tv and is normal. tv stations also broadcast videotext info with the signal at the edges hence the overscan.
I have the same issue under linux having fonts that are hard to read. I tried an Ubuntu live cd and actually got to the gnome desktop. Everything set off to the right side and a good portion of the screen cannot be seen.
The Mac mini uses an ATI Radeon 9200
personally I'd like it to run at 1280x720 just like on the mac. Does anyone have a pointer for me or maybe a running xorg config for that resolution?
Timing recommendation #6.... 1280x720 at 50Hz
Modeline................ "1280x720" 74,250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 741 746 750 +hsync +vsync
When I run xorgconfig and enter the hsync and vsync values for the pioneer I just end up with a pretty generic 1280x1024 configuration.
I read in a German forum that you can use modeline in xorg.conf to get the card to display special resolutions. However I could not get it to run.
http://www.hifi-forum.de/viewthread-139-786.html
This is what is reported to the card by the Pioneer Plasma;
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Monitor
Windows description......... Plug und Play-Monitor
Manufacturer description.... PDP-R06
Manufacturer................ Pioneer
Plug and Play ID............ PIO0061
Serial number............... n/a
EDID data source............ I2C bus (real-time)
Manufacture date............ 2005
EDID revision............... 1.3
Display type and signal..... Digital
Sync input support.......... n/a
Screen size................. 960 x 540 mm (~45")
Power management............ Active off/sleep
Color characteristics
Display gamma............... 2,20
Red chromaticity............ Rx 0,683 - Ry 0,317
Green chromaticity.......... Gx 0,313 - Gy 0,581
Blue chromaticity........... Bx 0,139 - By 0,050
White point (default)....... Wx 0,289 - Wy 0,280
Timing characteristics
VESA GTF support............ Not supported
Horizontal scan range....... 15-46kHz
Vertical scan range......... 23-61Hz
Video bandwidth............. 80MHz
Extension blocks............ 1
Timing recommendation #1.... 1920x540 at 50Hz
Modeline................ "1920x540" 74,250 1920 2448 2492 2640 540 574 579 562 +hsync +vsync
Timing recommendation #2.... 1920x1080 at 25Hz
Modeline................ "1920x1080" 74,250 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1148 1158 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
Timing recommendation #3.... 1920x540 at 60Hz
Modeline................ "1920x540" 74,250 1920 2008 2052 2200 540 542 547 562 +hsync +vsync
Timing recommendation #4.... 1920x1080 at 30Hz
Modeline................ "1920x1080" 74,250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
Timing recommendation #5.... 720x576 at 50Hz
Modeline................ "720x576" 27,000 720 732 796 864 576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync
Timing recommendation #6.... 1280x720 at 50Hz
Modeline................ "1280x720" 74,250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 741 746 750 +hsync +vsync
Timing recommendation #7.... 720x480 at 60Hz
Modeline................ "720x480" 27,000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync
Timing recommendation #8.... 1280x720 at 60Hz
Modeline................ "1280x720" 74,250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
Timing recommendation #9.... 720x576 at 50Hz
Modeline................ "720x576" 27,000 720 732 796 864 576 581 586 625 -hsync -vsync
Standard timings supported
720 x 480 at 60Hz - Pioneer
720 x 576 at 50Hz - Pioneer
1280 x 720 at 50Hz - Pioneer
1280 x 720 at 60Hz - Pioneer
1920 x 540 at 50Hz - Pioneer
1920 x 540 at 60Hz - Pioneer
1920 x 1080 at 25Hz - Pioneer
1920 x 1080 at 30Hz - Pioneer
Raw EDID base
00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 41 2F 61 00 01 01 01 01
10: 00 0F 01 03 80 60 36 78 2A D7 B3 AE 51 50 94 23
20: 0C 4A 47 00 00 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
30: 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 1D 80 D0 72 1C 16 20 10 2C
40: 25 80 B8 18 32 00 00 9E 01 1D 80 18 71 1C 16 20
50: 58 2C 25 00 B8 18 32 00 00 9E 00 00 00 FD 00 17
60: 3D 0F 2E 08 00 0A 20 20 20 20 20 20 00 00 00 FC
70: 00 50 44 50 2D 52 30 36 0A 20 20 20 20 20 01 E4
Raw EDID extension (CEA-861)
00: 02 03 21 77 4D 94 12 13 05 03 04 11 01 16 15 07
10: 06 20 23 09 07 07 83 01 00 00 66 03 0C 00 10 00
20: 80 8C 0A D0 90 20 40 31 20 0C 40 55 00 B8 18 32
30: 00 00 18 01 1D 00 BC 52 D0 1E 20 B8 28 55 40 B8
40: 18 32 00 00 1E 8C 0A D0 8A 20 E0 2D 10 10 3E 96
50: 00 B8 18 32 00 00 18 01 1D 00 72 51 D0 1E 20 6E
60: 28 55 00 B8 18 32 00 00 1E 8C 0A D0 90 20 40 31
70: 20 0C 40 55 00 CB 18 22 00 00 18 00 00 00 00 69
EIA/CEA-861 Information
Revision number............. 3
DTV underscan............... Not supported
Basic audio................. Supported
YCbCr 4:4:4................. Supported
YCbCr 4:2:2................. Supported
Native formats supported.... 7
DTV formats supported....... 13
CE standard timings supported
1920 x 1080i at 50Hz (16:9) - HDTV (Native)
720 x 576p at 50Hz (16:9) - EDTV
1280 x 720p at 50Hz (16:9) - HDTV
1920 x 1080i at 59.94/60Hz (16:9) - HDTV
720 x 480p at 59.94/60Hz (16:9) - EDTV
1280 x 720p at 59.94/60Hz (16:9) - HDTV
720 x 576p at 50Hz (4:3) - EDTV
640 x 480p at 59.94/60Hz (4:3) - Default
720 x 576i at 50Hz (16:9) - Doublescan
720 x 576i at 50Hz (4:3) - Doublescan
720 x 480i at 59.94/60Hz (16:9) - Doublescan
720 x 480i at 59.94/60Hz (4:3) - Doublescan
1920 x 1080p at 23.97/24Hz (16:9) - HDTV
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