Gnome 2.16

kenjiru · n00b Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 41 Location: Romania

I'm looking forward testing it myself. I hope it will get quickly in ~x86

onlinepancakes · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:11 am Post subject:

kenjiru · n00b Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 41 Location: Romania

And when it will get in portage?

mark_alec · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:11 am Post subject:

capkanada · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:29 am Post subject:

Sounds nice. I'll probably wait a bit before I try it out myself, though.
The compositor looks quite nice from the screenshots that I've seen...just a shame that we nvidia users still have to wait for a driver that supports the GLX_texture_from_pixmap extension. :cry:

*sigh*
I guess there's still XGL and compiz until that day arrives.

(Unless I'm completely incorrect...which wouldn't be bad either.... :wink:

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Aside from open-sourcing their drivers, it would be nice if nvidia would bump up their release cycle....

onlinepancakes · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject:

Gnome 2.16 is in portage now but its hard masked.
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HotBBQ · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject:

Too bad the new composite goodies aren't available to nVidia owners quite yet. I was under the impression that nVidia was a major player in the developement of the Gnome eye candy/composite features.
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xtlosx · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:14 pm Post subject:

can't wait until it's in the ~x86 branch....

I myself use a nvidia card as well, hopefully everyone gets on board and get gnome-2.16 into the testing branch! I will hold off while it is still hard masked... hehe
I don't want to toast my laptop just yet.

kenjiru · n00b Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 41 Location: Romania

I hope they will do something about it as soon as possible. Maybe there are nVidia employee that use Gnome

Xake · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:32 pm Post subject:

xtlosx · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject:

I was excited to play with gnome-2.14... now it's time to start messing with 2.16 when it comes to ~x86... question, on packages.gentoo.org , i tried searching for gnome-base and gnome, and can't find the overall gnome package, am i looking for the wrong criteria???

kenjiru · n00b Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 41 Location: Romania

I couldn't find it either.

toober · n00b Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 6

Search "gnome desktop" and it should be the fourth from the top.

Xake · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject:

ericxx2005 · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject:

HotBBQ · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject:

sanmartin · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:36 pm Post subject:

To get the full list of everything masked for Gnome 2.16 take a look in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask. That's the file that says which files are explicitly masked and if you want to be sure you have all the new versions of everything you should just copy and paste the entire section marked for Gnome 2.16. REMEMBER THOUGH, don't complain to the Gentoo devs when it breaks your system. It's masked because they haven't tested it throughly yet. Merge at your own risk!

That said, it works really well for me. I'm impressed with the speedups, the deskbar applet is really cool, I *love* the new tango-style icons, and I like the change to the scroll bar (no longer blue). I say this is a good release. I didn't experience any merge problems except with Zenity and everything seems to work properly. Now if only they'd finally kill esound!

sepp · Guru Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 330

does anyone experience the same oddity with evolution as I do:
if you delete a message you actually lose focus on the message pane. it used to just display the next (or previous) message. now you have to click on a specific message. that's really bad because if you go through 20 messages in the morning it's lots of work.

Devport · Guru Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 361

sylware

Mono dependency is a slow poison, it's not a "coup". They will deprecate slowly everything that is not mono bloated, justifying themselves by torpeding any active development/support on target gnome desktop apps.
Maybe the entrance of Google CEO in the Novell board will stop this polluting process. Seems they want to acquire the "gnome brand"... without hurry.
It may be time to start a gnome project in order to pick-up any not really justified "deprecated" (according to the Novell Blog System) gnome software. Sticky notes is one of them.
I'm for giving the power of choice to the user (We are not MS and can do better)--> mono use flag with a gnome-mono-desktop ebuild.
We should also think of a python use flag with a gnome-python-desktop ebuild, since we may choose in the futur a non-python portage but this can wait since emerge alernatives seems far from a proper usable state.
If you generalize: High level foo language use flag and gnome-FOO-desktop ebuild... well something alike. The inconvenient is when *they* will succeed to make gnome base desktop not functionnal without a high level language; you know they work hard on that task.
Their is also another point of view: the entire standard desktop plumbering would be implemented within freedesktop, and the entire rest of a functional desktop in a high-level language. All will want the 'gnome' name in order to get all its audience and glory instead of creating a project on the side. If that's the case, the high level languages war for gnome domination has just begun (and I'll switch to xfce!).

sepp · Guru Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 330

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kenjiru · n00b Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 41 Location: Romania

sylware, and your discontent with mono it's based on what? To write desktop application using c and gtk it's a pain in the ass, and the pain grows with size of the project. In linux we lack a lot of good quality applications just because of that. That's why qt it's so popular, because it's easier to learn and easier to write application with.

So, in my opinion, mono is the best thing that can happen to gnome.

jonnevers · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 5:36 pm Post subject:

HotBBQ · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: