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toober
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 Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:29 am Post subject: Gnome 2.16 |
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So what is everyone's opinions on the changes since 2.14?
I'll start the ball rolling, are you happy with the inclusion of mono and the wave of new software breathing life into gnome or are you worried about speed bumps?
Gnome 2.16 Roadmap:
September 4th - GNOME 2.16.0 Tarballs Due
Hard Code Freeze ends, but other freezes remain in effect for the stable branch.
September 6th - GNOME 2.16.0 Final Release!
made sticky 7/9/06 - mark_alec
unstuck - 15/3/07 |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Wow that's only a few days away. Of course, for those of us who don't run ~x86, it'll be a lot longer.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| will be soon available on portage? |
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papal_authority
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| Gremo wrote: | | will be soon available on portage? |
Usually it's pretty quick for ~x86. Stable tends to take a few months though, at least it has for the other releases.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| papal_authority wrote: | | Gremo wrote: | | will be soon available on portage? |
Usually it's pretty quick for ~x86. Stable tends to take a few months though, at least it has for the other releases. |
ok (i'm in ~x86)
ps.
there are some updated ebuild for the new gnome on gentoo overlay (http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/gnome/)
i have tryed to update, but i get some errors, hope this will fix in the final release? |
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toober
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| Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject: Human interface usability |
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| Does anyone know of progression being made in the human interface usability for the default gnome 2.16? |
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VValdo
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| Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 3:30 am Post subject: Re: Human interface usability |
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| toober wrote: | | Does anyone know of progression being made in the human interface usability for the default gnome 2.16? |
Search here for work in progress (ie, draft) release notes. Not really for public consumption yet, but hey, it's open source so everything's public..
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Doogman
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| Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Interesting list. As usual, the little things mean alot:
I use the Gnome CD burner alot to burn DVDs and I'm really looking forward to burning on-the-fly. It takes awhile to copy 4 Gigs of data to /tmp for the ISO and is totally unnecessary with today's burnproof burners.
Nice to see the Dictionary app is getting the spelling sidebar back again. I'm not sure where or why it disappeared, but without the spelling feature Dict is almost useless.
And of course, all the eye candy. Although I don't think most of that will hit until 2.18. |
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VValdo
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: |
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How's this for eye candy...
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:18 am Post subject: |
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Yes yes. Eye candy is nice. However I'd want cut/copy paste work better between applications, undo and redo functionalities in most apps and there's propably other features missing which kind of should be there without saying but they aren't. Oh yeah. How well does drag'n drop work between apps?
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: |
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I always love Gnome release days.
Here's to a great 2.16, and a quick path to getting ebuilds in portage 
As for the eye candy, I think we're more than just 1 release away from it. And I'm talking XGL or AIGLX based eye candy. Waiting on a lot more than gnome to support that. Eventually though.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Has any one of you tested the overlay (as it is updated by gentoo-devs i guess they are much alike the final portage ones)?
I always has the problem with gaim being unable to start (it just aborts), cleaning the profile does not seems to help either... |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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I've been using the gnome-experimental overlay for a while, and it's been good. Alot of 2.16 packages are already flowing in.
I'm not happy with the inclusion of Mono, but I think that's because all the Mono apps i've used (banshee, f-spot, tomboy and others) have been disappointing, unreliable, slow, buggy, tend to have more emerge breakage ...etc so I have all the mono stuff ripped out 
Does anyone know if the gnome-experimental overlay will be imported more or less as is into portage? It'd be a pain to have to have to recompile.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Emopig wrote: | | I'm not happy with the inclusion of Mono, but I think that's because all the Mono apps i've used (banshee, f-spot, tomboy and others) have been disappointing, unreliable, slow, buggy, tend to have more emerge breakage ...etc so I have all the mono stuff ripped out |
My issue w/ mono being included is really a philosophical problem. If Microsoft is unwilling to provide a complete CLR, including System.Forms, for alternative systems (I know they have a OSX and FreeBSD port) why should I use their languages in any extent? I don't like to argue this too much as the Mono developers have put a lot of time into the project... but its my opinion on .NET on non-Microsoft platforms.
BUT i found it odd that beagle is not included but some other c# app I've never heard of is.
it looks like gnome 2.16 finally includes a metacity capable of compositing but its disabled by default, they expect until gnome 2.18.
everything else is gravy, gnome has been making my loonix desktop happy and sane for years now |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Any Howto on how to emerge gnome 2.16 from the gnome experimental overlay? I checked out the overlay, but there is no gnome-base/gnome ebuild. How did others install? |
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Craig_Williamson
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Q-collective
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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That was fast 
I wonder if GNOME 2.18 will beat KDE 4.0 when they both come out |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Might have to go to ~x86 for gnome for this if it looks good, I'll take a look-see now. |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| drkusama wrote: | | Any Howto on how to emerge gnome 2.16 from the gnome experimental overlay? I checked out the overlay, but there is no gnome-base/gnome ebuild. How did others install? |
just add the gnome experimental overlay in make.conf and then $ emerge -up world --deep will do the rest |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| does anyone know where to find the calendar in evolution? if I click on Calendars I just get to see the current day and on the right side there's the task & memo list. but there used to be an calendar which showed the whole month. where did it go? |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for that, very informative. I hope gedit gets fixed so that when you highlight something, it stays in the clipboard until pasted or something else is highlighted instead. The weird behaviour in that app makes it unusable for me personally.
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does anyone get this error compiling zenity? it's the only packages that fails for me:
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then mv -f ".deps/zenity-tree.Tpo" ".deps/zenity-tree.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/zenity-tree.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
if i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/share/locale"\" -DZENITY_DATADIR=\""/usr/share/zenity"\" -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -MT zenity-util.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/zenity-util.Tpo" -c -o zenity-util.o `test -f 'util.c' || echo './'`util.c; \
then mv -f ".deps/zenity-util.Tpo" ".deps/zenity-util.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/zenity-util.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -o zenity zenity-about.o zenity-calendar.o zenity-entry.o zenity-fileselection.o zenity-main.o zenity-msg.o zenity-notification.o zenity-option.o zenity-progress.o zenity-scale.o zenity-text.o zenity-tree.o zenity-util.o -lglade-2.0 -lxml2 -lz -lgnomecanvas-2 -lart_lgpl_2 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 -lnotify -lgtk-x11-2.0 -ldbus-glib-1 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -ldbus-1 -lglib-2.0
zenity-notification.o: In function `zenity_notification_handle_stdin':
notification.c:(.text+0x68b): undefined reference to `notify_notification_new_with_status_icon'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [zenity] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/zenity-2.16.0/work/zenity-2.16.0/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/zenity-2.16.0/work/zenity-2.16.0'
make: *** [all] Error 2
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:50 am Post subject: |
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do you have libnotify installed?
[EDIT]ok, yes, but what version[/EDIT]
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| Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| Gergan Penkov wrote: | do you have libnotify installed?
[EDIT]ok, yes, but what version[/EDIT] |
0.4.2 |
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