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ChrisWhite Retired Dev
Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 399 Location: Stockton, CA
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:40 am Post subject: Why do you use Gentoo |
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post your reason here. Detailed or not.
The purpose of this is to [hopefully] act upon listed items and do you people good. This is also to make me feel lovey dovey. Thank you.
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omp Retired Dev
Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 1018 Location: Glendale, California
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:50 am Post subject: |
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For a few reasons:
- The great community, of course.
- Level of customisability is rather nice.
- Everything works as expected without much trouble.
- I get packages with the features/dependencies I want.
- I feel most comfortable with Gentoo than with any other distro. _________________ meow. |
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codergeek42 Bodhisattva
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 5142 Location: Anaheim, CA (USA)
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Why I formerly used it:
* The community is fantastic, as most others will likely mention
* Nearly everything is in Portage, so there's not the (admittedly minor, but nonetheless existant) hassle of configuring alternate repositories or other similar things.
* The documentation is EXTREMELY thurough (heck I still use it as reference for a bunch of stuff and I'm on Fedora...)
* At install time the system is already updated. _________________ ~~ Peter: Programmer, Mathematician, STEM & Free Software Advocate, Enlightened Agent, Transhumanist, Fedora contributor
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avieth Veteran
Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 1945 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:56 am Post subject: |
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Because I'd never go back to using a commercial operating system, and gentoo is the best free solution... It's better than the non-free ones aswell
I like having complete control over my system, even though I'm no developer and I'm not getting the absolute best performance from it. And ever since I started using gentoo exclusively I haven't had to upgrade my system, it's been about a year-and-a-half. Portage is probably the best part. It's so easy to find and install packages. It's like a big box full of software and it's all free. (Except for those commercial games )
I first tried red hat 8 a real long time ago, it was my first linux attempt. I had no clue what was going on. I think I installed gnome and kde Anyways, I had it installed for about a week and then got rid of it and went back to windows. red hat seemed like windows but without as much software and hardware support. Then, a year or 2 later I got a 64-bit processor, the same one I have now, an Opteron 146. I wanted to try 64-bit so I downloaded the suse dvd Took really long. Then I installed it and thought it was pretty neat, it had a lot of cool stuff on it, so I definitely thought it was better than windows, but it's owned by novell, and I really don't want to use their software (person reasons ). Plus I found it quite slow, althought the YaST control center is cool.
So then someone recommended gentoo and I then tried 3 times to install it. Once I got it working I stuck with it for about a month and realised I had a really bad install. So I tried again with all the stuff I learned from my first attempt, and that's my system now. I learned so much about linux from gentoo and I can apply all that to my system. Not that I'm much a performance guy. I basically just use my computer for music, instant messaging, email, internet, and sometimes video games.
Oh, and I love being able to tell my high school teachers that KOffice can't create .doc files. |
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jmbsvicetto Moderator
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 4735 Location: Angra do Heroísmo (PT)
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:48 am Post subject: |
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Well, mostly for the reasons omp and codergeek42 posted:
- Community
- Customiziation
- Works as expected, mostly
- USE features / package dependencies control
- Portage's extensive repository of packages
- Very good and thorough documentation
- I feel at home
And another that hasn't been stressed yet:
- The system is / can be always up to date
- No need to reinstall
By the way, I've been using Penguins for some years now and have used Slackware, RedHat, SuSE, Fedora, openSuSE and other distributions. My first one was a 3.X slackware and the last one before Gentoo was SuSE 9.0. These last 2 years have been fun I've also used/use SLES, and Knoppix / sysresccd. _________________ Jorge.
Your twisted, but hopefully friendly daemon.
AMD64 / x86 / Sparc Gentoo
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lghman Guru
Joined: 29 Nov 2002 Posts: 548 Location: Florida
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:09 am Post subject: |
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jmbsvicetto wrote: | Well, mostly for the reasons omp and codergeek42 posted:
- Community
- Customiziation
- Works as expected, mostly
- USE features / package dependencies control
- Portage's extensive repository of packages
- Very good and thorough documentation
- I feel at home
And another that hasn't been stressed yet:
- The system is / can be always up to date
- No need to reinstall
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That pretty much sums it up. I love it when I tell my computer to do something and it acutally listens to me. I have been on Gentoo for a long time, and I can very safely say, that it is my only distribution. (Even if there is a graphical installer now )
--sonik _________________ "What a distressing contrast there is between the radiant intelligence of a child and the feeble mentality of the average adult" --Freud |
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bombcar Guru
Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Posts: 453 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:35 am Post subject: |
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USE features. |
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runningwithscissors Guru
Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 454 Location: the third world
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:42 am Post subject: |
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- It is free.
- It is somewhat educational
- Large software repository
- Delivers sources along with software (Some of the snippets serve as great examples)
- Very easy to follow documentation
- Coloured by default shell
- Configuration is simple. |
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grassushi n00b
Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 54
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Having tried various flavors before and after Gentoo, I have found that Gentoo is simply the best. It keeps me interested by its level of difficulty in comparison to many of your other "point-and-click install" distros with less versatile package managers. The fact that it is a source-based is a major selling point to me, as binary distributions just dont optimize enough. I have personally learned more about linux from using Gentoo than I have from any other distribution in my seven years of using linux. The fact that I tried Gentoo, used other distros (including various UNIX distributions), and came back, is the most indicative point of my experience though.
Gentoo is simply the best. |
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geniux Veteran
Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 1400 Location: /home
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:37 am Post subject: |
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- Community, it's great
- Portage
- USE Flags
- Speed
- The documentation
This is the main reasons why I use Gentoo, it just had all I was looking for in a Linux distro _________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ AM2
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Phenax l33t
Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 972
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Cuz I kan compile al my appz wit and it goes ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!11OENE!!11 |
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Bob P Advocate
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 3374 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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I use Gentoo because I enjoy the pain. |
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Chaosite Guru
Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 540 Location: Right over here.
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Bob P wrote: | I use Gentoo because I enjoy the pain. |
QFT.
I guess its mostly the community, and the fact that portage doesn't get in my way of doing things. For example, in Ubuntu, you need to do everything the way the distrobution expects it. In gentoo, it doesn't really care, and even the hackiest solution to a problem will work. |
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rrok n00b
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 48 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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omp wrote: | For a few reasons:
- The great community, of course.
- Level of customisability is rather nice.
- Everything works as expected without much trouble.
- I get packages with the features/dependencies I want.
- I feel most comfortable with Gentoo than with any other distro. |
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yngwin Retired Dev
Joined: 19 Dec 2002 Posts: 4572 Location: Suzhou, China
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Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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I use Gentoo because it puts me in control: it's a Free OS, it's transparent with text-file-based manual configuration, it's very customizable (useflags, cflags, etc). It has an excellent package manager (although there's always room for improvement) which provides loads of packages and the best dependancy handling I've seen so far. Of course it also has a nice community, which is very helpful. _________________ "Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." - Abraham Lincoln
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anello Guru
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 557 Location: EU -> DE -> Stuttgart
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Voltago Advocate
Joined: 02 Sep 2003 Posts: 2593 Location: userland
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Because I can. |
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tylerwylie Guru
Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 458 Location: /US/Georgia/Atlanta
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Because of Portage.
The tool is simply amazing, I used to use Red Hat before this, I didn't mind some of the GUI tools, but I found them to be lacking somewhat. When I came to Gentoo I was forced to learn how to manage my configuration with text files, and while I can probably carry this over to any other distribution, they still didn't encourage use of the command line over point and click. Then enter "emerge." The way it handles everything, the way you can modify it with /etc/portage, everything you can change on programs to suit your needs. This is exactly what I needed, when I was using Red Hat, and SuSE I found it odd that I couldn't play my mp3's, then I figured out "oh, I need to find the codec" only to go and look for one, find a suitable RPM and hope it worked, whereas with Gentoo I can be assured that with the right USE flags it saves me the headache of handing codecs. The Gentoo installation method is one that ensures that you have some idea what's going on when you're done installing it.
Besides Plug and Play, everything with Gentoo...just works. SuSE had problems with my wireless card, Ubuntu's just flat out stupid, and Debian and Slackware are... best way to put it is "meh"
Gentoo is Gentoo, that's the only way to put it. |
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dalek Veteran
Joined: 19 Sep 2003 Posts: 1353 Location: Mississippi USA
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:45 am Post subject: |
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Because it works but helps you to learn as well. It also beats dependancy hell I had with Mandrake, Mandriva or whatever they call it.
Did you post this on the gentoo-user list too? What are we doing with this info? Just curious.
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guduri Apprentice
Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 230 Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:49 am Post subject: |
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Why do you use Gentoo?..... It is like asking why do you breathe? _________________ Power is about what you can control. Freedom is about what you can unleash. |
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yabbadabbadont Advocate
Joined: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 4791 Location: 2 exits past crazy
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:54 am Post subject: |
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USE flags and community. I could really do without all the compiling but, of course, that isn't possible and still have USE flags.
The last time I had Ubuntu on my machine, I tried to remove all the bluetooth packages as they are worthless to me. Apt insisted that it would have to uninstall the entire kernel... Shortly thereafter, I restored my stage4 backup. _________________
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bladus Apprentice
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 233
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:36 am Post subject: |
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geniux wrote: |
- Community, it's great
- Portage
- USE Flags
- Speed
- The documentation
This is the main reasons why I use Gentoo, it just had all I was looking for in a Linux distro |
same here |
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Rcomian Apprentice
Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 174 Location: Uk, Northwest
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Gentoo works pretty much the way I feel a linux distribution *should* work.
I tried RedHat, suse, mandrake & debian for a long time and always felt somewhat frustrated with them, mostly in non-specific ways that I couldn't quite identify. Debian was closest to what I felt I wanted, but still fell short.
Gentoo is a basic, minimal framework onto which you graft what you need. It's not a pre-formed solution where if it doesn't do what you want it to do then you're stuffed. Pre-formed solutions have a very important place, I'd just like them to be built with a nice configurable back end, like gentoo.
It's fluid, and you can avoid the big bang updates - they always scare the hell outta me. Of course you can go for big-bang updates if you so wish.
For some reason I love the idea that everything is compiled to your machine. I've often wanted a generic library of pre-compiled binaries for gentoo, I think it's possible and should be done, but when I start thinking of all the possible things that *could* affect whether a pre-built binary will work on a particular gentoo installation: architecture, cpu version, gcc version, libc version, kernel includes version, kernel, dependant libraries versions, CFLAGS, USE flags, etc, I start to realise how much information is needed and how specific a gentoo build can be. Changing one of the base criteria can have a profound effect on most/all packages in the system which gentoo lets you sort out (from revdep-rebuild to emerge -e world). With a binary distribution, they can only practically support a small subset of the possible configurations, gentoo is pretty much fully flexible here. |
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R.Smith Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 131 Location: Caerdydd, Cymru.
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:52 am Post subject: |
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My reasons pretty much echo what everyone else has said: superb community & documentation, unlimited customisation (I like my system to be lean), rock-solid stability, security and a dev team that actually listens to, and interacts with, its users. |
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loki99 Advocate
Joined: 10 Oct 2003 Posts: 2056 Location: Vienna, €urope
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Because I like:
*) the community
*) my freedom
*) the fact that Gentoo at least tries to be community driven
*) being able to "look under the hood"
*) getting a chance to learn stuff
*) and last but not least the community! |
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