No musicbrainz support in amarok

Horus107 · Apprentice Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 230

Hello,
I've installed amarok from ~x86:

El_Presidente_Pufferfish · Veteran Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 1179 Location: Seattle

iirc its not supported in the latest version of amarok because it's unstable

yngwin · Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject:

See https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140184
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tychver · n00b Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 19

That's wrong I'm afraid. Amarok-1.4.3 uses libtunepimp-0.5.x which is not vulnerable. There's also the musicbrainz portage overlay if you want to use musicbrainz through the picard tagger. It's still forcefully disabled in the ebuild. The version of musicbrainz in portage is also two minor revisions behind. I think we are probably waiting for the ~arch testers to keyword it now.

yngwin · Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:25 am Post subject:

tychver, you didn't read the bug report, did ye?

phil_r · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject:

Sorry to sound like a complete 'tard but if someone could point me in the direction of an ebuild that allows musicbrainz, or can tell me how to modify the one emerge pulls down, I'd appreciate it.

Phil.

Kaste · Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:09 pm Post subject:

http://dominikx.blogspot.com/2006/08/amarok-svn-ebuild-1.html

Try that one

Zarathustra[H] · Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:30 am Post subject:

phil_r · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:49 pm Post subject:

I agree with you. It looks to me like Diego can't be bothered dealing with the issue because Musicbrainz isn't "important" or something.

If the Amarok developers include the ability to use Musicbrainz, then it's not upto Portage maintainers to decide if we as users should be allowed to have the programs required.

yngwin · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:36 pm Post subject:

You're perfectly allowed to have it any way you want. It's free software after all. But Gentoo maintainers are free to withhold support for features that generate bugs. They are volunteers after all, you know. So you can change the ebuild yourself, or use an overlay - which is a portage feature after all!
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BorgDrone2 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 107

Yet more ebuild bogus-ness (search bugzilla for problems with kword spelling)
Musicbrainz works just fine with amarok.
echo =media-libs/tunepimp-0.5.1 >> /etc/portage/package.unmask

modify the amarok.ebuild
add this:
musicbrainz? ( media-libs/tunepimp )
in the DEPEND section
and remove this line.
--without-musicbrainz

No point in complaining. The dev's have made it perfectly clear that they don't give a damn about what the user community wants. I've resolved to maintain an ever growing overlay until FreeBSD matures enough to replace Gentoo.

yngwin · Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:03 am Post subject:

BorgDrone2 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 107

Been using Gentoo since 1.4RC4. Only recently created an account because the distro that I have been using for years seems to be heading in the wrong direction and I felt the need to speak up.
Look at the number of packages in Gentoo, and the trend (heading downward), compared to FreeBSD (also volunteers, yet XMMS, Gnome 1.4 libs, etc are still there and the number of packages keeps going up.

Kaste · Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:08 am Post subject:

I'm just curious, what do you need Gnome 1.4 for still?

BorgDrone2 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 107

Don't need it myself, but the Gnome 1.4 libs are used by more than just old gnome 1.4, just like there are still useful gtk+ 1 apps around.
Take a look at this blog post from planet.gentoo
http://www.datanode.net/?p=309
removing gnome 1.4 libs breaks a number of otherwise live and active packages.

The current trend in gentoo, taken to full conclusion (which, I know won't happen) is that there are NO packages in portage, just a bunch of community supported overlays. Great for a hobbiest system, but not useful for more than that.

Kaste · Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:30 am Post subject:

Well that is just a rational consequence I'd say. The number of packages in portage grows a fair bit stronger than Dev man hours. That means either less packages wil be supported or they will be supported in lesser quality. I'd certainly opt for less packages. If I still want them I can get them some other way, but I'd hate to get a less reliable system.

hairyfeet · Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject:

@BorgDrone2: Gentoo devs are trying to maximize the usage of their free time spend on Gentoo thus less used/unmaintained ebuilds are removed from the Portage tree from time to time. The only thing that can really change that is more man power. For example see: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/staffing-needs/. Maintining ebuilds, dealing with bugs and pushing out security updates in a timely manner is quite time expensive.

BorgDrone2 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 107

Especially if one is trying to support alpha
amd64
arm
hppa
ia64
mips
ppc
ppc64
ppc macos
s390
sparc
sparc fbsd
x86
x86 fbsd

I see that arm, s390, and alpha are listed on the help wanted list. From what company would I get a new alpha machine? Supporting dead architectures is draining away man power. Gentoo should pick a few to concentrate on them (suggest x86, ia64, amd64, and maybe x86fbsd)

hairyfeet · Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:01 am Post subject:

@BorgDrone2: Gentoo is a volunteer project and as such most developers tend to work on what they like/need. Anyone able to help out with ebuilds on main architectures are more than welcome to join (or help out elsewhere like Sunrise). As such work on the extra architectures are not really any work lost for Gentoo since the contributors would probably not have donated the same amount of work for an architecture in which they have no interest.

BorgDrone2 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 107

So be it.
Gentoo once seemed to have aspirations of being a serious, enterprise class distribution. But I have noticed and you just echoed is that it is now a hobbiest distribution. The ever shrinking official portage tree and the ever growing list of overlays just further confirms this. Why bother even separating devs from non-devs. Apparently, now everybody is a dev. I've got years of experience maintaining a system, starting with LFS and then moved to Gentoo because didn't have time to deal with the maintenance, install scripts, etc. Lately, Gentoo seems more and more like LFS. A great learning experience to be sure, but I personally don't have time for that anymore.

zerojay · Veteran Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 1033

unreal128 · n00b Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 5

Coming back to the tunepimp discussion. Musicbrainz shows that the buffer overflow bug has been addressed and tunepimp is now stable. Does anyone know why tunepimp is still masked? If not, can we ask the maintainers directly?

I really need to fix the ID3 tags in my music library.

Conan · Guru Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 360

flameeyes reenabled musicbrainz in one of the recent amarok ebuilds, I forget which though.

unreal128 · n00b Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 5

I have musicbrainz installed and running with Amarok but I am still unable to emerge the tunepimp package.