[einit] v0.10 is out, any beta testers about?

mdeininger · Last edited by mdeininger on Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:30 am; edited 5 times in total

Oi everyone!

I just managed to get the first BETA of that new init system of mine released, and i'd appreciate anyone who'd give it a thorough checkup...
It should be fairly swift, and I (hopefully) ironed out most bugs.

overlay: http://jyujin.de/~mdeininger/projects/einit-0.10-portage-overlay.tar.bz2
sf.net project page: http://sourceforge.net/projects/einit
homepage: http://einit.sourceforge.net/
documentation: http://einit.sourceforge.net/documentation/users/

It compiles on Linux/amd64 and OSX/ppc, and I think it also compiled on Linux/x86, although I only tested a CVS snapshot from about 4 days ago.

I also submitted an ebuild to gentoo's bugzilla...

EDIT: I created an rsync overlay for layman, you can use it with:

rmh3093 · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject:

i'll test it, next time include a link to just the ebuild if you could
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mdeininger · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject:

rmh3093 · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject:

wow this is nicer than initng, my only complaint right now is the lack of orginazation in the config files. it looks like you are in the middle of changing how you do some things, or maybe i am just confused: I really like the xml file for all of the daemons. I will have to play with this more when I get home
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rmh3093 · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject:

oooh nice, it supports includes

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mdeininger · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject:

*g*
i figured that could come in handy.

the configuration files can be confusing, i admit that. i tried to write the most important parts down in the user's guide...
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zAfi · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject:

@ rmh: how much faster is your boot process compared to the standard init system??

I'm thinking about giving einit and initng a try....but only if there's some improvement (talking about speeeeeed) in the boot process...^^
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rmh3093 · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject:

mdeininger · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject:

aye, that's another reason why i chose xml files =)
i figured it'd be pretty easy to make a web-interface gui, or an automatic updater for module definitions if i used xml.

this is weird, your computer is restarting when you load the appropriate wlan module?
maybe there's two different modules and they conflict..

i'm not sure how well the example configuration works with wlan devices, those configuration entries haven't been written by me, but by haader, i merely skimmed over them to see if they should kinda work. and i think they'll only work with wlan devices that register as "ath0", if you need to run a different device, you'll probably have to copy the appropriate section and modify the configuration entry. i'll go and see if i can get the network card in the media computer downstairs to work with einit tomorrow (it's using an rt2500 pcmcia card, registering as ra0)

as for speed... my box boots in (bios time + grub time + kernel time + ~6 secs) i.e. roughly 15 seconds from power-button to login screen.
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rmh3093 · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:52 pm Post subject:

ahh, the problem with the restarting in the case of the wireless card driver was because I had the module listed as ethernet also, once i removed the module from the ethernet definitions I could modprobe the driver and the computer didnt reboot, that was definitely an issue with einit battling with itself

anyhow, i tweaked the wireless script and got my wireless card working
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mdeininger · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:57 pm Post subject:

mh, not sure if it's einit battling with itself, i've seen some pretty weird kernel panics lately, related to loading/unloading modules, but unrelated to einit.

anyway, glad it works for you. if you add any modules, please do submit them, as i'd like to include them in the cvs-version and the next release

a new handler for network configuration is underway, though

the scripting approach i took so far isn't nearly as flexible as is required...
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StringCheesian · l33t Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Posts: 887

Looks neat. I think I misconfigured it.

First I tried it with the default configuration:

mdeininger · Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject:

well, let's see...

i guess it failed for the first time, because you haven't edited the parts in your /etc/einit/rc.xml with /dev/ROOT and the likes...
changing the fstab source to legacy is, of course, valid, but if you do that, you should change it to:

rmh3093 · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:06 am Post subject:

well im not going to change anything if you are changing how network devices are being handled, that is the only thing i see that needs improvement at the moment
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micr0c0sm · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:41 am Post subject:

Can you submit your overlay to layman? If so, I will gladly test einit.

yoyo · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:43 am Post subject:

Well, I'm ready to give it a ty. But before this I would be sure that einit works on reiser4/amd64 (I dodn't see why it doesn't but he! it's my gentoo :wink:

).

To benchmark init processes you can use bootchart (I think it's in portage now) but is it works with einit ...

Enjoy !
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mdeininger · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:42 am Post subject:

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mdeininger · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:06 am Post subject:

mdeininger · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:20 am Post subject:

alright, i added a layman-overlay for einit. I edited the original post accordingly, and i'll go and send a mail to (maybe) have this overlay included in the central list.
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yoyo · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:47 am Post subject:

mdeininger · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:17 am Post subject:

well, if you _really_ wanna be sure, you'd better wait till i figured out how to parse the reiser4 superblock.
the only difference that will make is to allow the filesystem mounter to be able to scan reiser4 filesystems... and thus figure out if an fsck will be in order and to read the label and uuid from the filesystem.

it's not in the list because i haven't tried it myself, although the list itself doesn't do much right now. about the only function it has is to allow einit to figure out if a filesystem type is a network-filesystem or a local filesystem. you could just copy the reiserfs entry and modify it so it applies to reiser4

(actually, i just did that in the cvs version... it'll be committed later today

)

mhhh, on second thought, i'm not sure how stable reiser4 is, it might make for a bad combo...
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rmh3093 · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:22 pm Post subject:

yoyo · Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:44 pm Post subject: