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buddabrod
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| For me reiser4 crashed several times followed by data loss.. i don't know why.. it just randomly happened. After that i switched back to jfs and everything is fine and much faster since then. |
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Elv13
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| RobertDavid wrote: | How much is your partition filled?? Because Reiser4 problem while beeing filled to 100% then corruptions like that occures. Or this is only when I had error with reiser4, so you had to do something realy wrong to your system to get this.. did you tryed to mount that after building-fs? just to backup and reformat??
Second: keep backup while reiser4ing, my crasshed are realy rare but not impossible, and dont use reiser4 for all stuff like documents etc (also reiser4 isnt suitable for big file partitions like video, music, etc) So I use reiser4 on /var /usr/src / and ext3 on /usr/lib and data-documents partitions
On the other side, reiser4 is pretty stable, but sometimes as a little child that needs more care and caution than other filesystems. |
i downloaded a linux distrubution dvd  aparently its that, 1 too large file broke my system. I will never use reiser4 again...
fsck --fix --build-sb --build-fs
worked when i used all at the same time, but now apps dont start... i reemerged xorg-server, firefox-bin and emerged fluxbox to talk now. Is their a way to reemerge kde-meta without the rest of the system? |
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zxy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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I would reinstall world, if I was in your place. Who knows what's broken.
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Just run it in the background and in a day or two or three or ... your world will be back. 
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Elv13
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| yea, you are right |
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cheater1034
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:13 am Post subject: Cv4 |
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What's up, As a preparation for CV4, I'm going to start with a very basic list... And I'd like you guys to add to it.
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* Complete x86_64 support
* 2.6.20-no2 desktop edition --- customly configured by us of course ;)
* GCC 4.1.2, nothing beyond that
* Completely new CFLAGS/LDFLAGS/etc
* Remove conrad-updater garbage. Too confusing, weird. Lets install a good solid gentoo without messing around like in previous versions, but while still keeping a strong sense of power, but more practical.
* Enhance filesystem options. Make this compatible with ext3, ext4, and reiser4. With only one being the default.
* 2007.0 profile
* YOUR_REQUEST_HERE
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* Remove the prelink stuff. It's unreliable, can easily break a system. You shouldnt be scared of breaking your system because of it when updating binutils/glibc like I was.
* YOUR_REQUEST_HERE
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* New Init system
* YOUR_REQUEST_HERE
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Doubtfully
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* Upgradeable from CV3 (I don't think it'll be possible if I remove prelink)
* YOUR_REQUEST_HERE
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[b]* ext4 (1), reiser4 (0), or ext3 (0) as the default filesystem.[/b]
* YOUR_REQUEST_HERE |
Let me hear requests. I want a lot of stuff, this is only scratching the surface!
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micr0c0sm
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ext4 default. I have been using it for two months now, not a single problem, better performance than ext3.
btw i like the new direction. Powerful seems like a good word to describe a 1st) solid desktop system that is 2nd) fast.
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vipernicus
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| micr0c0sm wrote: | | ext4 default. I have been using it for two months now, not a single problem, better performance than ext3. |
Do you use extents? If so, you haven't ran into any problems with fsck detecting some non extent nodes on boot on occasion?
What CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/LDFLAGS are you planning on?
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micr0c0sm
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| yes i use extents, so far no weirdness in checking - i had to compile my own e2fsprogs b/c of the patches but they work fine. |
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vipernicus
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| micr0c0sm wrote: | | yes i use extents, so far no weirdness in checking - i had to compile my own e2fsprogs b/c of the patches but they work fine. |
Why did you have to compile your own? Gentoo's ~x86 version of e2fsprogs has had ext4 support for several months. Which patches did you use?
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nesl247
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:34 am Post subject: Re: Cv4 |
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| cheater1034 wrote: |
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* Upgradeable from CV3 (I don't think it'll be possible if I remove prelink)
* YOUR_REQUEST_HERE |
You do realize you can simply prelink -au right? |
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Jesterhead
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Maybe another Init System?
Package manager? |
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zxy
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Jesterhead wrote: | Maybe another Init System?
Package manager? |
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cheater1034
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Cv4 |
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| nesl247 wrote: | | cheater1034 wrote: |
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* Upgradeable from CV3 (I don't think it'll be possible if I remove prelink)
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You do realize you can simply prelink -au right? |
Prelink is one of the most insecure things I've dealt with. I know you can do that. I can do an upgrade guide, but it will be very hard if I have some of these complex changes I'm planning.
| Jesterhead wrote: | | Maybe another Init System? |
Maybe
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Never
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vipernicus
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Cv4 |
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| cheater1034 wrote: | | Prelink is one of the most insecure things I've dealt with. |
Actually, it adds security.
prelink -amR
The -R option:
Random -- randomize the address ordering, this enhances security against buffer overflows.
In other words, it speeds up linking and protects your binaries against buffer overflows.
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cheater1034
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: Cv4 |
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| vipernicus wrote: | | cheater1034 wrote: | | Prelink is one of the most insecure things I've dealt with. |
Actually, it adds security.
prelink -amR
The -R option:
Random -- randomize the address ordering, this enhances security against buffer overflows.
In other words, it speeds up linking and protects your binaries against buffer overflows. |
unstable is what I meant. It's very touchy to break a system particulary with that patch thing.
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vipernicus
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Cv4 |
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| cheater1034 wrote: | | vipernicus wrote: | | cheater1034 wrote: | | Prelink is one of the most insecure things I've dealt with. |
Actually, it adds security.
prelink -amR
The -R option:
Random -- randomize the address ordering, this enhances security against buffer overflows.
In other words, it speeds up linking and protects your binaries against buffer overflows. |
unstable is what I meant. It's very touchy to break a system particulary with that patch thing. |
I have no clue what you are talking about. What patch thing? Are you confusing prelink with -Bdirect? Or are you referring to hash-style=gnu? hash-style=gnu is default with binutils-2.17.50.12.
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cheater1034
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| Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks homie, I havent done this stuff in a long time.
It's not bad I suppose, I'll make hash optional in CV4
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Don-DiZzLe
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, I wanna follow your guide but it seems ur site is down for the moment, so I cant download the conrad-updater and other files.
What do to? |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yes.. it seems the domain expired.. can you please post the ip or alternate address of the conrad-project server?
i would love the stay updated 
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micr0c0sm
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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seriously consider paludis as the recommended package manager. at the very least add support for it because it really is very easy to install and use alongside portage if you so desire. personally portage is non-existant on my system and has been for months.
...seriously.
try out some init system too. it would be a nice addition. |
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zxy
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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micr0c0sm ++
einit & paludis <--- oh yeah
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cheater1034
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Yo guys, here is the IP of the conrad server: http://207.210.113.235/
You can acquire all of the files from there.
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Concerining Paludis: I seriously am considering it, but it will not be in the first CV4 release because I have never used it. I need to familiarize myself with it before I throw something that big into the conrad guide. I will need more than a day to test it, so it will greatly delay the release of CV4 which I do not want. I will release CV4 before working with paludis. I just can't push something into it that is that huge and unofficial without testing it myself first. If you want to meet up with me in #conrad or something and show me whatever about it, and I try it and like it... I will put in in CV41.
Concerning einit: ^^ ditto
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| cheater1034 wrote: | | Concerning einit: ^^ ditto |
remember, i'm around for questions concerning that if you have any
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| Hi. I'm trying out the conrad install on an amd64 machine. I've grabbed and extracted a stage3 amd64 tarball and chrooted with another livecd. I can follow the guide up until I have to emerge glibc for the first time and portage can't find glibc-2.5-extra_patches_1.1.tar.bz2. Does anyone know how to solve this? Thanks for any help. |
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Elv13
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:28 am Post subject: |
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My request:
- remove that resiser4 fs, it crashed my system twice (emerge -e world from chroot each time or no boot)
- add a new run level for services like cups, samba and lirc that can be loaded after xdm with no problem (A much faster boot time)
- replace the gensplash with a nicer one?
- xeffect overlay by default (not necessary)
- a new kicker ebuild including the kickoff menu for kde (the hacked kicker ebuild are actually less or more buggy)
- parallel service loading by default
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-boot-faster/index.html?ca=dgr-lnxw09FastLinuxBoot
this link can be usefull too.
A faster boot time would be nice |
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