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theomega Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 88 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: [SOVLED] Searching for Konsole replacement for XFCE |
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Hy,
I used KDE on my Notebook, Im not realy pleased with it: It useses much ram, and the worst of all: It writes to my harddisk without doing anything what prevents my harddisk from falling into suspend mode. So I looked for alternatives and found xfce. Its just the thing I searched for except one thing:
I realy liked the Konsole of KDE because of its Hotkeysupport (Hotkeys are first handled by Konsole and if there was no action send to the terminal), because of its tab-support and because of its clipboard integration. All these things Im missing at the standart xterm of XFCE. I tried out rxvt which supplied non of these features and I tried mrxvt. This seems closer to Konsole than all other terminals but I got the following problems:
1. I some applications (Like VIM) Hotkeys like Shift+Left are not working because vim handles them
2. It doesnt integrate very good into xfce: The look is completly different and ugly
3. It doesnt support the GTK Clipboardcommands, so there is no copy and paste but only this middle mouse button which I dont like
4. The Buffer is much to small: When I use Shift+Page up to scroll I dont get enough lines. I dont know how to change this
Does anybody know a alternative application for konsole? I dont want to use konsole because it pulls up ked and other kde tools and the harddiscproblem will continue.
Thanks
TO _________________ A64 3700+ SanDiego@Ninja Passive, Asus A8V Deluxe, 2x1024MB MDT-Ram, Saphire Radeon 9800 pro@VF700CU, Samsung 200GB IDE, LianLi PC7SE (2x120mm fans)
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stobbsm Guru
Joined: 23 May 2004 Posts: 452
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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I use terminal, that comes with xfce. Not sure about hotkeys, but it has tabs, true transparency (if you use the latests svn), seems to support using Shift+Insert to paste something (can't remember copy), and has lots of lines to go back to.
I think you should give it another try. _________________ Sysadmin of Ubuntu systems and servers....
Although my own server is gentoo.... |
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theomega Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 88 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hy,
okay, sounds good, but how to I create tabs? Please tell me the shortcut.
Thanks
TO _________________ A64 3700+ SanDiego@Ninja Passive, Asus A8V Deluxe, 2x1024MB MDT-Ram, Saphire Radeon 9800 pro@VF700CU, Samsung 200GB IDE, LianLi PC7SE (2x120mm fans) |
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stobbsm Guru
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Shift+Ctrl+T _________________ Sysadmin of Ubuntu systems and servers....
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theomega Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hy,
no, sorry, but thats not working, nothing happens if I press this keys. Are you sure you got the "normal" xfce terminal? Because this Terminal is only a xterm which doesnt tabs imho. Could you please tell me which additional Software I have to install?
Thanks
TO _________________ A64 3700+ SanDiego@Ninja Passive, Asus A8V Deluxe, 2x1024MB MDT-Ram, Saphire Radeon 9800 pro@VF700CU, Samsung 200GB IDE, LianLi PC7SE (2x120mm fans) |
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stobbsm Guru
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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if you want the true transparency, xfce-extra/terminal-9999
get's it from svn, which is the xfce I suggest you use anyways. _________________ Sysadmin of Ubuntu systems and servers....
Although my own server is gentoo.... |
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Element Dave Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 82
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: Searching for Konsole replacement for XFCE |
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theomega wrote: | Hy,
I used KDE on my Notebook, Im not realy pleased with it: It useses much ram, and the worst of all: It writes to my harddisk without doing anything what prevents my harddisk from falling into suspend mode. |
Your hard drive problem is probably caused by hal, which by default polls devices every two seconds. The constant polling of devices is atrocious behavior, and I would suggest disabling the pseudo HAL (see whether "hald" is in your boot or default runlevel) until a real HAL is available. Alternatively, the probing of individual device classes can be disabled if you want need it for some devices (e.g., USB storage). I don't know offhand where such settings are configured but that should be easy enough to find.
I like the terminal emulator for XFCE4 ("Terminal") much more than konsole, the latter of which has a convoluted method for setting foreground and background colors. However, Terminal is not installed by default with the xfce-base packages; it is part of xfce-extra, so you must either install the xfce-etra meta package or separately install xfce-extra/terminal. There is is a terminal emulator that is installed as part of xfce-base, but that is not Terminal. |
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jeanfrancis Veteran
Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 1482 Location: Québec, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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theomega wrote: | Hy,
no, sorry, but thats not working, nothing happens if I press this keys. Are you sure you got the "normal" xfce terminal? Because this Terminal is only a xterm which doesnt tabs imho. Could you please tell me which additional Software I have to install?
Thanks
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You surely started xfterm4l, which only stats the "preferred" terminal (chosen in the xfce options).
You need to emerge xfce-extra/terminal and start it with terminal |
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theomega Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:33 am Post subject: |
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Okay, thanks to everyone, terminal seems to be just what I needed. Thanks! _________________ A64 3700+ SanDiego@Ninja Passive, Asus A8V Deluxe, 2x1024MB MDT-Ram, Saphire Radeon 9800 pro@VF700CU, Samsung 200GB IDE, LianLi PC7SE (2x120mm fans) |
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