My Feedback and suggestions

shaumux · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:28 am Post subject: My Feedback and suggestions

Hi
I have been a gentoo user for around 2.5 years now.
and i just love it.
But off late there are some things i would like to point out.

1. Nowadays the gentoo news letter seems to be delayed

2. Also the packages in portage seems to lagging behind other distros. My package.keywords just keeps getting biiger.
But my system is running just fine. I suppose the packages could be updated a little faster.

3. Also i would like to point out the error on the release engg. project page it still says march for 2007.0 although its april
I think they should give a correct timeframe. I am not saying to rush things here, the developers need their time and
they should have it, they can just provide a more correct timeframe, give the releasle date in the future of their
expected release date, so they have some more time if something goes wrong. I think it will give a better impression
on others.

4. Also i think Gentoo is not getting enough promotion and attention like ubuntu or fedora or suse. I think something
should be done about this.

5. Also i think there should be a community binary package repository containing binary packages available in portage
which will be uploaded by gentoo users. I think that would really help gentoo going that extra mile and no one can
complain then that gentoo is time consuming coz they would have the option of the community binary repositiry

Naib · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:40 am Post subject: Re: My Feedback and suggestions

shaumux · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:14 am Post subject:

Actually in point 3 i was not pointing to the release itself but the release dates.
I think the timeframe should be more accurate. Postponing continously creates a bad impression and send out a wrong message.At least thats wat i think.

Also i am happy that u agree on point 4 i think something should be done about this.

on point 5 i do not mean to replace the source based as the main option but it could be something like a last resort or for people looking for a quick install for some reason.

Most of all i would like to say here that i am not critisising gentoo i just said wat i thought would help gentoo get even better.

mark_alec · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:20 am Post subject:

1. Yes, the newsletter is often delayed these days. Calls have gone out for people to help with it, not sure how successful they have been.

2. As Naib stated, there has been a considerable effort to make sure that arch is stable, even if it lags behind upstream. If people want to use ~arch packages, they can.

3. Release engineering just uses that date as an 'expected time', nobody holds them to it - it will be ready when it is ready.

4. Gentoo is no longer the 'new' linux, nor does it cater to the desktop crowd like Ubuntu or Fedora do, thus it is expected that it doesn't get as much press treatment.

5. There have been efforts at creating a binary repository in the past, they have failed. That isn't to say that you (or someone else) can't try. If the community likes it, it will be successful.
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Roman_Gruber · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:17 am Post subject:

You could help.
I help in the forum and I have a lot to do.
Later in two or three years I help sorting out bugs.
Now I have a little amount of time to participate.

Akkara · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:55 am Post subject:

shaumux · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject:

@tw04l124
I am always ready to help.

Concerning the binary repositiry , that was just an idea i had, if its taken seriously then some measure can be taken like the user who submit the packages will have to register and also there might be precautions taken such as having to submit a valid logfile and telling all the use flags and other options used and there could be a voulantry team of testers of the submitted packages. Also i meant it as a last resort not as a replacement.

And i think that the release enng. team should put dates in future of their expexcted dates, remember that perfect schedules will always crumble. I am not talking of the release itselt here as some of u might think but of the release date.
Creates a bad impresssion on others, i think

Genone · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject:

shaumux · Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject:

Thats a good point i think maybe there shouldn't be any release dates given by them, it'll be released wen its ready amy be tats the best option.

d2_racing · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:37 am Post subject: Re: My Feedback and suggestions

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Genone · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: My Feedback and suggestions