What is wrong with bluetooth support in gentoo?

Xamindar

I have read through various gentoo wiki howtos on getting bluetooth working with my phone and none of them are correct. First of all, not one of them (and i have read at least three) tell me how to pair my phone with my gentoo. They just skip that part entirely. I already have bluetooth working and I can see my phone, just how the heck to I pair it? There should be a date added on to the wikis telling you the last time it was modified. It's getting ridiculous how many of them are outdated.

The gnome+bluetooth+phone one for example:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_mobile_phone,_Bluetooth_and_GNOME
It tells me to run "gnome-bluetooth-admin" which doesn't even exist.

Anyone know an up to date tutorial?

mbjr · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:07 am Post subject:

Hi,

I guess you have all the bluez installed available, can you see your device by running hcitool scan and can you ping it with l2ping <mac-addr>?

Cheers,
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tomk · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject:

The wiki isn't officially supported by Gentoo, it's generally best to use the official Gentoo documentation for accurate and up-to-date information.

There is an official bluetooth guide that appears to have all the information you're after.

As for getting dates on the wiki, if you click on the history tab it'll show you when the last changes were made as well as being able to see the differences between versions.
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jbryner · n00b Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 47 Location: pdx

I agree with you the wiki date thing annoys the hell outta me too. It should be prominently displayed so right away you know whether it's relevent.

Anywho. Just went through the same thing (never found that gentoo doc until this post though cause I always pic docs on the header, not listing on the sidebar!argh.) and you can pair your phone either from the phone or from the pc.

Depends on your phone but on my sony-ericsson t616 I choose bluetooth/add device and it searches, finds my pc and asks me for the PIN. If I enter the PIN, voila they're paired.

Without the device in the list, if I initiate a transfer using say obexftp, the phone prompts me for the pin from the PC and adds the device for me (to the phone).

I was looking for simple scripts to get and put stuff on the phone. Here's stuff that worked for me:

obexftp (after adding bluetooth to the use flags)
http://openobex.triq.net/obexftp/examples

gsmlib
http://www.pxh.de/fs/gsmlib/doc/gsminfo.html#index

sobexsrv (allows the phone to send to pc)
http://www.mulliner.org/bluetooth/sobexsrv.php

Most useful to me was the obexftp to get phonebook, calendar. and the gsm utils to manage sms messages. Here's some commands in case they help someone: (bluetooth address should be changed from 11:22:33 to your own)

getting the phonebook in .vcf format:

Xamindar · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:24 am Post subject:

trilexx · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:34 am Post subject:

There was a gnome-bluetooth-manager. When I installed that stuff some days ago, there has been a gnome-bluetooth-manager, but it didn't work, so I upgraded the gbome-bluetooth package to arch and in this newer version there is no manager anymore.
There are two versions of gnome-bluetooth in portage. The older one, 0.7.0-r1 should contain the manager, the newer one (0.8.0) doesn't.
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Xamindar · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:02 am Post subject:

weird, ok. thanks for the info.
I am having a problem pairing I think. I looked in the logs and I see error messages when I try to pair.

BrummieJim · l33t Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 683

Make sure you've put bluetooth in your use flags when you emerge gnome-bluetooth and whatever package provides libbtctl.

HTH

Xamindar · Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject:

Yes I have done that.

Simius

BlueZ upstream is at version 3.8.

The version required to get obex in nautilus (just like in konqueror) is version 3.7.

The newest version with an ebuild in portage is *TADA* 2.25

A bit disappointing. If I don't find one, I'll make an ebuild for 3.8 myself. This is starting to feel like debian.

Xamindar · Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:54 am Post subject:

Wow, you are right. That sucks.

I also have another question. Is it possible to use the kde bluetooth stuff under gnome? So I can have a dialog pop up asking for a pin when I try to pair something? Or is it too dependant on kde?

Xamindar · Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject:

Is there something I am doing wrong here? Anyone have any ideas? I have checked and rechecked my configuration files but can't find any problems. My phone seems to be paired, I can ping it and find out what services it operates. But it seems you can do that even when it's not paired.

When the bluetooth service is started /dev/rfcomm0 is created and should be linked to my phone. Here is my rfcomm.conf

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Xamindar · Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:58 am Post subject:

here is what I get by running the commands you suggested. Thanks for the help. Now I know it is all of bluetooth and not just the dialup stuff. With the obex command I just get an empty window pop up to select a device (none are there) to send to.

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Xamindar · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:15 am Post subject:

I guess it's no use.

Xamindar · Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:13 am Post subject:

ralfonso · n00b Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 7

I'm having the same problem. I can pair the phone, but I can't send files. I get the exact same errors and I also can't start gnome-obex-server.

I even tried it with libbtctl 0.8.2

Xamindar · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject:

Looks like bluez 3.10 is now in portage! Yay, that's the newest version. I am thankful to whoever did this.

While on the subject, how can I install net-wireless/bluez-gnome-0.6 ? It is keword masked. I forget how to get that in package.keyword (or is it package.keywords?) so that I can at least try to install it. Im using ~amd64.

nevermind, just read the man page

added "net-wireless/bluez-gnome **" to /etc/portage/package.keywords and I can now install it on amd64.

Xamindar · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:22 am Post subject:

Anyone know how to enable rfcomm support (or turn it on) in the new bluetooth version that is in portage? There used to be options in /etc/conf.d/bluetooth I think but now it is gone.

red-wolf76 · Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject:

Anyone know why installing 3.10 breaks stuff that worked with 2.25 (my Logitech DiNovo Desktop, most notably). I used to get it to work in both boot-protocol-mode as well as HCI-mode but after upgrading it - no dice. I do get a snazzy Bluetooth-icon in Gnome with 3.10 but lot of good will it do me if I have to have a second keyboard or SSH in to activate my keyboard and mouse... :cry:

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Wojtek_ · Guru Joined: 28 May 2006 Posts: 397 Location: London

Grrr... I just noticed that portage only has a 0.9 version of gnome-bluez where there is already 0.13 available at bluez.org. I am also having nightmares trying to compile multisync/opensync as they are very (and I mean VERY!) sensitive to certain use flag. I must say that Gentoo and Bluetooth is a real disaster so fay:/.
Cheers,

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tekknokrat · Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject:

can somone enlighten me for what rfcomm support without tty support should be useful.
i mean how do I address the serial interface without the rfcommX entry?
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red-wolf76 · Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject:

This works when manually running hid2hci in a gnome-terminal.