Goddamn GTK+ Installer wiped my partitions!

erik258 · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:21 am Post subject:

you should email me your xorg.conf.new file for editing.

or better yet, take neddy's suggestion. boot into ubuntu, mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/gentoo, and cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /mnt/gentoo/etc/X11.

then reboot into gentoo.
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spadearcher · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:39 am Post subject:

You great guys: Let me try to straighten out a (perhaps?) minor point: My "xorg.conf.new" file resides in my /root directory. ((I have no knowledge how it got there in the first place; some sort of automatic installation action, I presume.) Until a little while ago, my "/etc/X11" directory did not house any "xorg.conf" file except for an "example." Now, in a general response to what I understood to be Neddy's intent, I copied over my Ubuntu "xorg.conf" file into my Gentoo X11 directory. So I will be sending you both of these.

root@ubuntu:/mnt/gentoo/root# cat xorg.conf.new
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "record"
Load "xtrap"
Load "dbe"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "ShadowFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "DefaultRefresh" # [<bool>]
#Option "ModeSetClearScreen" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "vesa"
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series]"
BusID "PCI:1:5:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"

Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24

EndSubSection
EndSection

root@ubuntu:/mnt/gentoo/root#

root@ubuntu:/mnt/gentoo/etc/X11# cat xorg.conf
# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
# sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
# path to defoma fonts
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "int10"
Load "type1"
Load "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "stylus"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "stylus"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "eraser"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "eraser"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "cursor"
Option "Device" "/dev/wacom" # Change to
# /dev/input/event
# for USB
Option "Type" "cursor"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Xpress 200 (RS480)"
Driver "ati"
BusID "PCI:1:5:0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Generic Monitor"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 28-51
VertRefresh 43-60
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Xpress 200 (RS480)"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
root@ubuntu:/mnt/gentoo/etc/X11#

Again, you guys: Many, many thanks.

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Whatever happened to the Maltese Falcon? The begining of this thread was so entertaining and I've neither watched the movie nor read the book (yet) so I have no idea what it's about. Following along on this installation of gentoo has proven to be educational. Forgot about the copy/paste on the terminals option.
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erik258 · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject:

dear mr spadearcher,

X -configure gives you a new xorg.conf.new, and it does its best to configure X for your system. It seems to do a decent job most of the time for me, but I do have to tweak it a little. I then copy it over to /etc/X11/xorg.conf , which is the default place X looks for it.

neddy's method is much better. Since ubuntu uses the same version of X and is running on the same PC with the same hardware configuration, you simply borrow that configuration fo r Gentoo as well. delete that old /root/xorg.conf.new -- you won't need it anymore.

d_adams,
two private detectives take a young, pretty woman's case. it sounds like balogna, but she "paid more than if ou were telling the truth; and enough more to make it all right." But when one (Miles Archer) turns up dead and the other (Sam Spade played by Humphrey Bogart) is the only suspect in the case, Spade's gotta play it smart, and (of course) comes out on top. Sydney Greenstreet (?) is in it too, playing Casper Gutman, the Fat Man. One of bogart's best movies. That and "The Big Sleep" ... rent one today!
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spadearcher · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject:

Erik: I won't get home from the office until tonight, at which time I'll delete the xorg.conf.new from my Gentoo /root file. That will leave in my X11 file the xorg.conf file I copied from Ubuntu. If I read you correctly, this is what you intend for me. However, we have been back and forth so much lately (between ourselves and in the various steps in the Gnome installation -- all my fault!) that I'm uncertain now as to what my next step is. What command do I go back to -- that previously failed?

P.S. Your response to d_adams was quite good: I think you gave him a sufficient indication of the plot line to interest him (hopefully) without giving away the really critical elements that make the story and characterizations so fascinating.

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erik258 · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:55 pm Post subject:

i hope so, for his sake.

spadearcher,
i am forgetting where we are, but i think when you get home you should test X. by the way, successful emerges end with

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You could try doing emerge --resume

If it finished ok then it won't do anything. If it didn't, then it should take off where it stopped at.
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spadearcher · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject:

Erik: OK, I'll give it a try. However, you recommend gdm (the Gnome display manager?). If I don't have Gnome installed in my Gentoo yet, how can gdm work for me?

erik258 · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject:

did the gnome emerge fail? I'm sorry, i forgot.

make sure that you don't emerge things more than once. you will install the same version again! this won't break anything ,but it could mean a lot of wasted time waiting for nothing. instead, use the --update option to emerge to tell it only to emerge new things.
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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject:

erik258,

When xorg.conf is under test, I prefer to test with an empty .xinitrc and no display manager.
Defualt twm is a welcome but ugly sight when you have been fighting Xorg.
Not having a display manager set means you don't have to wait for Xorg to crash on boot before you can try to fix it (again)
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erik258 · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:20 pm Post subject:

that is a good point. there is no guarantee that the xorg.conf file we've pilfered will in fact work.

i think it probably will, but it's possible it won't.

for that reason, and because gnome might not be installed anyway, i suggest you consider running Xorg by itself first, spadearcher.
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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject:

erik258,

We don't yet know what Xorg video driver spadearcher has installed. The Ubuntu xorg.conf calls up the ati open source driver, its possible thats not installed in Gentoo yet. Thats about the only thing I can think will go wrong.
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spadearcher · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:46 am Post subject:

Erik and Neddy: Further developments/considerations:

1. I executed an "emerge --resume" which presumably resumed my former attempted installation of Gnome, which finally seemed to complete all right, i.e., it resulted in Erik's indication of a successful install -- "GNU info directory is up-to-date." So, I presume that I have now successfully installed Gnome.

2. I am confused over your references to "xorg." In my installation efforts of Gentoo to date, I have been relying on the "Quick Install Guide" and the "Gnome Installation HOWTO" instructions (in addition to your valued advice along the way). Nowhere in those documents up to the point I have gotten is there any mention of a need to install "xorg," though I have discovered through your queries that I have an /etc/X11 directory, in which my "xorg.conf" files reposes. Do I in fact already have an "xorg" installation or do I need to install one before proceeding further?

3. My next step in my Gnome Installation instructions, which I cannot get past, is (and I quote):

"First Impressions

Let us first take a look at what we just built. Exit your root shell and log on as a regular user. We will configure our session to run GNOME when we issue the startx command (see also Using startx in the X Server Configuration Howto):

Code Listing 2.8: Having GNOME as default desktop environment

$ echo "exec gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc

Now start your graphical environment by running startx:

Code Listing 2.9: Starting GNOME

$ startx

If all goes well, you should be greeted by GNOME. Congratulations. Now let us take a look at how you can configure GNOME to suit your needs."

In trying to execute this, I get a long error message, of which the salient lines appear to me to be:

(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(EE) Failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "wacom" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) No drivers available.

Fatal server error:
no screens found"

Is all this part of an xorg installation which I do not have? Obviously, I'm confused. But at least (!!!) I seem to have successfully installed Gnome.

Desultory: Thanks for your contributions. I don't quite understand how and where exactly to work "app-misc/screen."

Erik: I assume you've also checked out the great Bogart cult film "In A Lonely Place."

Regards, and thanks, to all.

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erik258 · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:19 pm Post subject:

looks like you want to

emerge -uav ati-drivers

and then try startx again. let me know how it goes!
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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject:

spadearcher,

All operating systems are built up bit bit bit, even Windows which hides the bits, as do binary distros.
Gentoo does a pretty good job of it too but its harder as the bits need to be configured if the things that depend on them are to work.

To keep it simple, I'll discuss three bits.
1) The basic install, this is provided by the command line installer. Success is indicated by being able to boot with no errors and connect to the internet. It may not be complete but things like USB disk support or IDE DMA can be added later.
2) Xorg. This is needed to support all the GUIs on Linux. If you emerge a GUI (any one) and Xorg is not installed then emerge builds it as a dependancy without asking you. Unfortunately, it can't set it up.
3) Your GUI of choice - you chose Gnome. Gnome has its own settings too.

I'm a great believer in keeping the problem space as small as possible by working on one thing at a time.
Your Xorg is very close - you haven't installed the ati driver for xorg, probably because you missed setting up the VIDEO_CARDS= in /etc/make.conf. You can fix that later, meanwhile,

spadearcher · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject:

SUCCESS! SUCCESS! SUCCESS!

Following and appropriately melding your various suggestions I successfuly executed "startx" and then went on to finish my Gnome installation in accord with the HOWTO instructions. The Gnome gui comes up when I choose Gentoo from my boot menu. I believe I am familiar enough with Gnome from my other distros to proceed fairly well on my own from here, but if you have any other special or particular Gentoo guidance for me at this point, please offer it up. It will be, as usual, most welcome. Thanks so much all of you for your patience, fortitude and excellent advice and guidance. Am I now through with this thread -- which has gone on so long (with no little domination of space from me)? Regards, Jim

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject:

spadearcher,

Theres nothing quite like getting your Gentoo box working, congratulations.

Now its going, you can break it under controlled conditions in attempt to make it 'better', You have to define 'better' for yourself.
Just now, if you are using the x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati driver, you have no 3D acceleration. If you don't play 3D games thats probably good enough.

There is a faster driver for some ATI cards, which you can get with

spadearcher · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject:

Neddy: I think I'll stick with my currently functional driver for now. No 3d games for me! Thanks again. Jim

erik258 · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject:

Good work, Jim.

This has definitely been the longest ongoing topic I've been a part of, and I enjoyed it ; )

Enjoy Gentoo.

Sincerely, dan.
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