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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:54 pm    Post subject: KDE: nicer ALT + Tabulator, without whole XGL possible? Reply with quote

Hi,
I have seen some screenshots of linux machines using xgl, and i find the alt-tab manager very nice.
i searched the internet to get something like this:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/images/thumb/3/31/T0maz_Xgl_24.png/750px-T0maz_Xgl_24.png
but I can't find any usefull.
Is there a way to install this tool without a whole XGL install??
(i don't w[/url]ont so much unstable packets on my system...)

any ideas??

greets from italy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Re: KDE: nicer ALT + Tabulator, without whole XGL possible? Reply with quote

bd_italy wrote:
Hi,
I have seen some screenshots of linux machines using xgl, and i find the alt-tab manager very nice.
i searched the internet to get something like this:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/images/thumb/3/31/T0maz_Xgl_24.png/750px-T0maz_Xgl_24.png
but I can't find any usefull.
Is there a way to install this tool without a whole XGL install??
(i don't w[/url]ont so much unstable packets on my system...)

any ideas??

greets from italy
bd_italy


Yes, if you have nVidia graphic card or make AIGLX working (requires newer X.org), you can have this too if you install and run Beryl. Search gentoo-wiki.com for more info.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
i just emerged beryl and tried to set it up...
after starting it i get

Quote:
[22:14:45] max@laptop:~>libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted)
libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
kwin: Fatal IO error: client killed
XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX
beryl: No composite extension


i have an Intel graphic card on the laptop i trie to get it work:
Code:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)


whats AIGLX and how can i set it up so that beryl works? :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bd_italy wrote:
hi,
i just emerged beryl and tried to set it up...
after starting it i get

Quote:
[22:14:45] max@laptop:~>libGL error: open DRM failed (Operation not permitted)
libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
kwin: Fatal IO error: client killed
XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX
beryl: No composite extension


You need to enable DRI. Append this to /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Quote:
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection


bd_italy wrote:
whats AIGLX and how can i set it up so that beryl works? :roll:

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Here you can find the answer: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

i i did now all steps as described in this howto
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX
until step 4 Installing a Compositing Window Manager
then i switched to the Beryl How2
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Beryl
and did all again.
but i get still an error
Quote:
[10:24:04] max@laptop:~>beryl-manager
[10:24:08] max@laptop:~>kwin: Fatal IO error: client killed
XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX
beryl: No composite extension

dmesg tells nothing interesting...

how can i solve this?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bd_italy wrote:
Hello,

i i did now all steps as described in this howto
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_AIGLX
until step 4 Installing a Compositing Window Manager
then i switched to the Beryl How2
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Beryl
and did all again.
but i get still an error
Quote:
[10:24:04] max@laptop:~>beryl-manager
[10:24:08] max@laptop:~>kwin: Fatal IO error: client killed
XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX
beryl: No composite extension


You do not have Composite enabled. Append the following lines to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Quote:
Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "true"
EndSection

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, thanks for your help.

mhhh.. now it works, but not as I want it to work.
the main problem is that scrolling (in firefox or file manager) is veerrrryyyy slow,
and the secont problem is that beryl has stolen my close window/minimize buttons _ X etc.

is there a way to get them back?
because i only want the tab switcher, with the other thinks i will play later on :roll:

this is wat i get after starting beryl:

Code:
[13:52:25] max@laptop:~>libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
kwin: Fatal IO error: client killed
XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX
libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
beryl: No stencil buffer. Clipping of transformed windows is not going to be correct when screen is transformed.
No framebuffer_object support! (only simple blur aviable)
No fragment_program support! (only simple blur aviable)
No packed_depth_stencil support! (this may cause some artefacts in fbo mode)





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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bd_italy wrote:
hi, thanks for your help.

mhhh.. now it works, but not as I want it to work.
the main problem is that scrolling (in firefox or file manager) is veerrrryyyy slow,


This is caused by AIGLX itself. XGL and nVidia have better performance, but first is big and second is on nVidia cards only.

You can fix this a bit by unchecking smooth scrolling in configuration of Firefox and Konqueror.

bd_italy wrote:
and the secont problem is that beryl has stolen my close window/minimize buttons _ X etc.

is there a way to get them back?


There is a thing called Aquamarine, which is KWin decoration bindings to Beryl. It will restore your buttons, but it is currently very unstable however (it crashs a lot but there’s no problem in restarting it). Just try and see.

bd_italy wrote:
because i only want the tab switcher, with the other thinks i will play later on :roll:


Well, you can try Kompose with Kompmgr (KWin shadows and transluency) and AIGLX. It does not require Beryl, but I think it is not what you want (and it will be slower too, but not so much).

bd_italy wrote:
this is wat i get after starting beryl:

Code:
[13:52:25] max@laptop:~>libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
kwin: Fatal IO error: client killed
XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX
libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
beryl: No stencil buffer. Clipping of transformed windows is not going to be correct when screen is transformed.
No framebuffer_object support! (only simple blur aviable)
No fragment_program support! (only simple blur aviable)
No packed_depth_stencil support! (this may cause some artefacts in fbo mode)


These are warnings that something won’t run using hardware acceleration and therefore will be very slow.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi again,

thanks for your reply.
I think this is all not that what i wanted. so i trie now to switch back to my old configuration.
I thought it could be working like TaskSwitchXP on WinXP,maybe i should wayt a while until all is stable....

thanks for your help

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sten wrote:
You can fix this a bit by unchecking smooth scrolling in configuration of Firefox and Konqueror.
Where is that option in Konqueror? I can find it only in Firefox.
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