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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:17 pm    Post subject: WTF!!!! Gentoo installer got to be the worse I've ever seen Reply with quote

Very bad install from gentoo. Never seen anything like it. Both GTK+ and Command line. Trying GTK+ 3 times, every time errors. Trying command line once, error. I've tried 4 -5 different distro's and every one was a 1 time install, flawless. With Gentoo I've tried 3 -4 different ways to install and all failed. Last 2 I've tried were networkless.
Can somebody tell me how to get Gentoo installed. I even followed the "Handbook" with no luck.

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about instead of winging to us about how bad the installer is, you tell us exactly what failed? It does provide logfiles for this purpose.

Indeed, you're probably quite frustrated by the process... that's understandable, but it doesn't help us help you. :-)
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: WTF!!!! Gentoo installer got to be the worse I've ever Reply with quote

Fittipaldi wrote:
With Gentoo I've tried 3 -4 different ways to install and all failed.
If i remember right I tried to install gentoo about 9 different times before I got a completely working system. I agree with Redhatter, please post your errors and someone will probably be able to help you out.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the last install I did with command line installer.
How I ran out of space I don't know when I wiped out all existing partitions and use recommended partition by gentoo.


GLI: December 27 2006 22:24:02 - Gentoo Linux Installer version 0.4.2
GLI: December 27 2006 22:24:02 - Setting root password.
GLI: December 27 2006 22:24:04 - Portmap started.
GLI: December 27 2006 22:24:04 - Completed pre_install steps
GLI: December 27 2006 22:24:56 - Gentoo Linux Installer version 0.4.2
GLI: December 27 2006 22:24:56 - Setting root password.
GLI: December 27 2006 22:24:56 - Portmap started.
GLI: December 27 2006 22:24:56 - Completed pre_install steps
GLI: December 27 2006 22:38:02 - partition(): Processing /dev/hda...
GLI: December 27 2006 22:38:02 - _partition_format_step(): Formatting new partitions
GLI: December 27 2006 22:38:03 - Formatting partition 1 as ext2 with: mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda1
GLI: December 27 2006 22:38:04 - Formatting partition 2 as linux-swap with: mkswap /dev/hda2
GLI: December 27 2006 22:38:05 - Formatting partition 3 as ext3 with: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda3
GLI: December 27 2006 22:45:40 - Stage3 was generated successfully
GLI: December 27 2006 22:45:41 - fstab configured.
GLI: December 27 2006 22:45:41 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/rc.conf
GLI: December 27 2006 22:45:41 - Config files updated using etc-update. make.conf/fstab/rc.conf restored.
GLI: December 27 2006 22:45:41 - Make.conf configured
GLI: December 27 2006 22:45:41 - Chroot environment ready.
GLI: December 27 2006 22:45:59 - This is a bad thing. An exception occured outside of the normal install errors. The error was: '[Errno 28] No space left on device'
GLI: December 27 2006 22:45:59 - Traceback (most recent call last):
GLI: December 27 2006 22:45:59 - File "/opt/installer/GLIClientController.py", line 197, in run
self._install_steps[self._install_step]['function']()
GLI: December 27 2006 22:45:59 - File "/opt/installer/GLIArchitectureTemplate.py", line 539, in install_portage_tree
GLIUtility.fetch_and_unpack_tarball(portage_tree_snapshot_uri, self._chroot_dir + "/usr/", self._chroot_dir + "/", cc=self._cc)
GLI: December 27 2006 22:45:59 - File "/opt/installer/GLIUtility.py", line 584, in fetch_and_unpack_tarball
exitstatus = spawn("tar -" + tar_options + " -f " + temp_directory + "/" + tarball_filename + " -C " + target_directory, display_on_tty8=True, logfile="/tmp/compile_output.log", append_log=True, linecount=tarfiles, cc=cc, status_message="Unpacking " + tarball_filename) # change this to the logfile variable
GLI: December 27 2006 22:45:59 - File "/opt/installer/GLIUtility.py", line 350, in spawn
fd_logfile.write(data)
GLI: December 27 2006 22:45:59 - IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible, that the ramdisk environment ran out of space, not your hard drive.

If that error happens again, could you run df -h? My suspicion is that the ramdisk will be full.

The other thing you could do, is mount your root FS (mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/gentoo) and have a look -- see if anything got created there. It's also possible to do a manual installation.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet again another two failures. The log posted was the second, the first could add user or games and portage group. Both times I used GTK+. I'm waisting to much time with this gentoo installer. Got to be a better way to install.
Can somebody tell me how I can manually install? Thanks!!!


GLI: December 28 2006 01:24:57 - Gentoo Linux Installer version 0.4.2
GLI: December 28 2006 01:24:57 - Setting root password.
GLI: December 28 2006 01:24:57 - Livecd root password set.
GLI: December 28 2006 01:24:58 - Portmap started.
GLI: December 28 2006 01:24:58 - Completed pre_install steps
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - partition(): Processing /dev/hda...
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - _partition_delete_step(): Deleting partitions that aren't being resized
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - No match in new layout for old minor 3...deleting
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - No match in new layout for old minor 2...deleting
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - No match in new layout for old minor 1...deleting
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - _partition_resize_step(): Resizing partitions
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - _partition_recreate_step(): Recreating partitions
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - Drive has 390721968 sectors
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - Partition 1 has 200MB
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - Start sector calculated to be 0
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - End sector calculated to be 409600
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - Adding primary partition 1 from 0 to 409600
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - Partition 2 has 3000MB
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - Start sector calculated to be 409601
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - End sector calculated to be 6553601
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - Adding primary partition 2 from 409601 to 6553601
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - Partition 3 has 187582MB
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - Start sector calculated to be 6553602
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - End sector calculated to be 390721538
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - Adding primary partition 3 from 6553602 to 390721538
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:38 - _partition_format_step(): Formatting new partitions
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:39 - Formatting partition 1 as ext3 with: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:41 - Formatting partition 2 as linux-swap with: mkswap /dev/hda2
GLI: December 28 2006 01:37:42 - Formatting partition 3 as ext3 with: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda3
GLI: December 28 2006 01:39:10 - Mounted mountpoint: /
GLI: December 28 2006 01:39:12 - Created mountpoint /boot
GLI: December 28 2006 01:39:12 - Mounted mountpoint: /boot
GLI: December 28 2006 01:39:13 - Fetching and unpacking tarball: http://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/amd64/current/stages/stage3-amd64-2006.1.tar.bz2
GLI: December 28 2006 01:44:29 - http://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/amd64/current/stages/stage3-amd64-2006.1.tar.bz2 was fetched and unpacked.
GLI: December 28 2006 01:44:30 - fstab configured.
GLI: December 28 2006 01:44:30 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/rc.conf
GLI: December 28 2006 01:44:30 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/conf.d/clock
GLI: December 28 2006 01:44:30 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/conf.d/keymaps
GLI: December 28 2006 01:44:30 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf
GLI: December 28 2006 01:44:30 - Config files updated using etc-update. make.conf/fstab/rc.conf restored.
GLI: December 28 2006 01:44:31 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf
GLI: December 28 2006 01:44:31 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf
GLI: December 28 2006 01:44:31 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf
GLI: December 28 2006 01:44:31 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf
GLI: December 28 2006 01:44:31 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf
GLI: December 28 2006 01:44:31 - Make.conf configured
GLI: December 28 2006 01:44:33 - Chroot environment ready.
GLI: December 28 2006 01:51:27 - ERROR! Could not sync the portage tree using emerge sync. Falling back to emerge-webrsync as a backup.
GLI: December 28 2006 01:51:30 - Root Password set on the new system.
GLI: December 28 2006 01:51:30 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/conf.d/clock
GLI: December 28 2006 01:51:30 - Timezone set.
GLI: December 28 2006 01:51:30 - Starting emerge_kernel
GLI: December 28 2006 01:53:44 - Kernel sources:gentoo-sources emerged and /usr/src/linux symlinked.
GLI: December 28 2006 01:53:45 - -- MARK --
GLI: December 28 2006 01:53:45 - Starting build_kernel
GLI: December 28 2006 01:54:07 - Genkernel emerged. Beginning kernel compile.
GLI: December 28 2006 02:19:14 - Coldplug emerged. Now they should be added to the default runlevel.
GLI: December 28 2006 02:19:14 - Added coldplug to runlevel boot
GLI: December 28 2006 02:19:14 - Genkernel complete.
GLI: December 28 2006 02:20:08 - Added syslog-ng to runlevel default
GLI: December 28 2006 02:20:08 - Logging daemon installed: syslog-ng
GLI: December 28 2006 02:20:09 - Skipping installation of cron daemon
GLI: December 28 2006 02:20:10 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/conf.d/hostname
GLI: December 28 2006 02:20:10 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/conf.d/domainname
GLI: December 28 2006 02:20:10 - ERROR! Failure adding domainname to runlevel default because it was not found!
GLI: December 28 2006 02:20:10 - ERROR! Could not add domainname to runlevel default. returned a bad status code.
GLI: December 28 2006 02:20:10 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/hosts
GLI: December 28 2006 02:20:10 - Added net.eth0 to runlevel default
GLI: December 28 2006 02:20:10 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/conf.d/net
GLI: December 28 2006 02:20:29 - dhcpcd emerged.
GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:22 - Emerged the selected bootloader.
GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:22 - Found a mbr device: /dev/hda
GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:27 - Output of Kernel Names:
/mnt/gentoo/boot/kernel-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.18-gentoo-r6

GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:27 - Output of Initrd Names:
/mnt/gentoo/boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.18-gentoo-r6

GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:27 - Bootloader: the three information gathering commands have been run
GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:27 - Grub installed and configured. Contents of grub.conf:
default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.18-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3
initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86_64-2.6.18-gentoo-r6

GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:27 - Grub has not yet been run. If a normal install, it will now be run.
GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:27 - Found a mbr device: /dev/hda
GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:27 - Bootloader: grub has been installed!
GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:29 - fstab configured.
GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:29 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/rc.conf
GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:29 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/conf.d/clock
GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:29 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/conf.d/keymaps
GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:29 - Edited Config file /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.conf
GLI: December 28 2006 02:21:29 - Config files updated using etc-update. make.conf/fstab/rc.conf restored.
GLI: December 28 2006 03:21:30 - Exception received during 'Installing additional packages.': EmergePackageError :FATAL: emerge: Could not emerge net-print/cups-1.2.6!
GLI: December 28 2006 03:21:30 - Traceback (most recent call last):
GLI: December 28 2006 03:21:30 - File "/opt/installer/GLIClientController.py", line 197, in run
self._install_steps[self._install_step]['function']()
GLI: December 28 2006 03:21:30 - File "/opt/installer/GLIArchitectureTemplate.py", line 357, in install_packages
self._portage.emerge(installpackages)
GLI: December 28 2006 03:21:30 - File "/opt/installer/GLIPortage.py", line 265, in emerge
raise GLIException("EmergePackageError", "fatal", "emerge", "Could not emerge " + pkg + "!")
GLI: December 28 2006 03:21:30 - GLIException: EmergePackageError :FATAL: emerge: Could not emerge net-print/cups-1.2.6!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I notice you're trying to install additional packages. I've found it works best if I just install base-system packages, then do everything when I reboot.

I usually do a "GRP install", just sticking to the packages which come precompiled on the CD to install the base system (sometimes with X too). Once the machine is booting on its own, I then install everything else.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you read this stickied thread: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-486170.html? In particular did you update the installer as recommended in the FAQ?
Code:
# /opt/installer/misc/updategtkfe
?

There is a manual installation guide--which, like compiling your own kernel--I highly recommend everyone know how to do. It is available from the very thorough official Gentoo documentation section of the website: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

In my experience, with all things Gentoo it is absolutely 100% required that you read and research fully before taking any major steps. My first Gentoo install, I had not. I treated it like any other distro, and I failed. Then I thoroughly researched my hardware and system requirements in the forums, the documentation, and the excellent gentoo-wiki. Overall the documentation with Gentoo is the best I have encountered, and the flexibility of a Gentoo box is, again in my experience, unparalleled. But she can be a harsh mistress, so it's best to be overprepared.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest you grab some tissue, then pick up and leave.


Use a binary distribution. I really don't recommend Gentoo to people who aren't at least mediocrely experienced with *nix. I sure as hell couldn't install it the first few times I tried -- so I went to Debian, learned the ropes for a year or so, and learned to hate the flaws in apt-get with a passion. So I switched to Gentoo. Also, the GUI installer is pretty much terrible.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madisonicus wrote:
Have you read this stickied thread: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-486170.html? In particular did you update the installer as recommended in the FAQ?
Code:
# /opt/installer/misc/updategtkfe
?

There is a manual installation guide--which, like compiling your own kernel--I highly recommend everyone know how to do. It is available from the very thorough official Gentoo documentation section of the website: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

In my experience, with all things Gentoo it is absolutely 100% required that you read and research fully before taking any major steps. My first Gentoo install, I had not. I treated it like any other distro, and I failed. Then I thoroughly researched my hardware and system requirements in the forums, the documentation, and the excellent gentoo-wiki. Overall the documentation with Gentoo is the best I have encountered, and the flexibility of a Gentoo box is, again in my experience, unparalleled. But she can be a harsh mistress, so it's best to be overprepared.

HTH,
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Could have saved a few minutes of typing just agreeing with this.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MM23 wrote:
I suggest you grab some tissue, then pick up and leave.


Use a binary distribution. I really don't recommend Gentoo to people who aren't at least mediocrely experienced with *nix. I sure as hell couldn't install it the first few times I tried -- so I went to Debian, learned the ropes for a year or so, and learned to hate the flaws in apt-get with a passion. So I switched to Gentoo. Also, the GUI installer is pretty much terrible.


Experience is KEY here. My first attempts at Gentoo all ended miserably, and I was, or so I thought, pretty experienced with UNIX (as an end user, I learned there is a whole side of *NIX I didn't know). So, I switched to Solaris 10 (Sun's, now free and open source, UNIX. It's pretty nice.) I played with that for awhile, got frustrated there was not enough things packaged or compiled for Solaris on x86, got tired of having to build everything myself without any sort of package or dependancy management, and switched to Gentoo, and nailed it first attempt. Screwed it up within a week and had to start over, but such is life.

If you are not familiar with your hardware (and thus your kernel config) and configuring things yourself (which many binary distributions won't even let you do, at least, with the level Gentoo requires you to do) you do have your work cut out for you.

But, that doesn't mean you should give up. I learned alot in my first failures, and I switched to Solaris 10 not because I didn't want to learn Gentoo first, but because learning Solaris was more usable for my job. When I finally had requisitioned hardware at work to build a second desktop, I installed x86_64 Gentoo. Then I installed x86 at home on my PC. I plan on installing x86 Gentoo on my SunFire v60x server (which is my current Solaris 10 machine).

What you should do is sit back with the handbook, and read it. Anything you don't understand or unsure of, check the forums, and google. It was what finally enabled me to set up my system right. Chances are any question or configuration question you have has been experience before.

Here is what I recommend you do:

1) Read handbook, and research, taking notes on a printed copy of the handbook, for anything you research. Print anything else you find helpful (like installing X, or gnome, or kde, or fluxbox, etc...).
2) Download the Gentoo minimum CD for your architecture.
3) Create above CD.
4) Start over with above CD. 2006.1 was the smoothest install I have ever done (was forced to start over when someone at work rebooted and then unplugged my 2006.0 build mid-rebuild after gcc4.1 migration. I was ANGRY. Guess they thought it was a windows box and they couldn't figure out how to unlock it, got myself a 2006.1 CD and rebuilt the system in 3 hours (I took breaks to work, I was afterall, at work). Granted I was able to salvage my /etc dir and my home dir, so I had alot of configuration already done. Follow the handbook. Don't assume you know what you are doing, as that leads to skipped steps, and skipped steps lead to errors.

Good luck and welcome to Gentoo. Getting started is a pain, but once you get going, IMO, there is no better distro.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See, that was exactly my point when I opened this thread four months ago... There would be one less (one of many) WTF!!1! post if simply there were no GUI installer.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I had a dollar for each one of these threads....

Dude, don't use the installer. Grab a liveCD, any liveCD (I recommend PCLinuxOS because it has pretty awesome hardware support), open a terminal (or Konsole or gnome terminal or whatever) from it, and do a stage3 install from the handbook.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If PCLinuxOS has such awesome hardware support, why not just install PCLinuxOS?
Last night I was 90% successful in installing Gentoo. I still had some errors but was able to get into X manually though. Gentoo installer couldn't add me as a user and couldn't load my sound (alsa). When it boots, it went to a consule mode. I started X by typing gdm and added me as user and was able to login as me but, when I rebooted again, the Grub menu had 2 Gentoo kernels that I can choose to boot instead of just the 1 default Gentoo kernel. Then my nvidia driver was not installed, screen resolutions weren't all there and who knows whatelse. I'm to new to know what to look for. Don't know why Gentoo installer needs to be so complicated. I'm gonna give this 1 more try with the PCLinuxOS LiveCD and see what happens. If it fails or doesn't load properly I gotta go back to Unbuntu or Suse. I've been without a computer for about 3-4 days now (trying to load Gentoo).

PS: I'm not home at the moment so can't post log file.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fittipaldi wrote:
If PCLinuxOS has such awesome hardware support, why not just install PCLinuxOS?
I think his point was that the PCLinuxOS LiveCD had broader hardware support than the Gentoo LiveCD. Therefore, using it to boot your machine is an easy method to get it up and running so that you can install Gentoo.

Fittipaldi wrote:
Last night I was 90% successful in installing Gentoo. I still had some errors but was able to get into X manually though. Gentoo installer couldn't add me as a user and couldn't load my sound (alsa). When it boots, it went to a consule mode. I started X by typing gdm and added me as user and was able to login as me but, when I rebooted again, the Grub menu had 2 Gentoo kernels that I can choose to boot instead of just the 1 default Gentoo kernel. Then my nvidia driver was not installed, screen resolutions weren't all there and who knows whatelse.

Please don't misunderstand what I'm about to say. We all realize you're new at this. However, as I and others have said, the most important thing you can do to make sure your Gentoo experience is successful and fulfilling is to read and learn about your system. Did you follow any of the advice the several of us spent a good bit of time writing out for you? Did you at least update the installer before, against many of our suggestions, you again used the GUI installer? Having more than one kernel is a good thing usually... what's the issue there? As for the nvidia driver and your problems with X, have you gone through any of the official Gentoo documentation to get Xorg and NVIDIA working? WRT to Alsa, did you follow the official Gentoo documentation on Alsa?

Fittipaldi wrote:
I'm to new to know what to look for. Don't know why Gentoo installer needs to be so complicated.
Gentoo is, in my experience, one of the best documented distributions out there. It is so well documented, in no small part, because it is so customizable. To that end, the developers have chosen to leave most of the ugly innards of every OS exposed to the user. They don't do this out of incompetence, but because it's what Gentoo users want. We want to know exactly what our boxen are doing and to be able to configure everything about them. If you don't want to totally know and totally own your computer, then there are other distributions that might be better suited for your needs. If that idea intrigues you, then Gentoo is a great place to stay.

Fittipaldi wrote:
I've been without a computer for about 3-4 days now (trying to load Gentoo).
You might try setting up a dual-boot with another OS. Gentoo, even without hitches, can take a couple days to compile.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I did update the installer and that's when I had better luck. Maybe I just don't have the patients to customize my box which is what I really want cause I know my computer well since I built it myself. There are just some many other thigs to do than mess with installing linux but, let's give it another try. I'm gonna get it. I hate to be a quitter......LOL!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Manual is better Reply with quote

I've never used the gui installer, even now, when it's recommended by gentoo over good old stage 1 install. My first install was a stage 3 install, just so I could have X running quickly; Gentoo was my first distro, so I still kind of feared terminals, but I quickly got over that fear, as most terminal apps have good "--help" options, good man pages, or good online docs.

My second install, I did a stage 1 install (and have used stage 1 on my third install, and will continue to use it on all future installs).
It was on a laptop (custom hardware abound, as is the case on most laptops). It took me forever just to get my wifi card to work (because I was doing a x86_64 install, and there are fewer 64-bit drivers). It had a Turion 64 processor, when they first came out, so it was kind of confusing deciding what architecture to compile stuff for. Add in an ATI card (especially then) and I had very little support...except that of the gentoo community, which was tremendous.
But now, I'm happy that I didn't install some regular distro with a normal gui install method: because now I know that everything works on that laptop, which might not be the case if I used more mainstream distros--they are more hit-and-miss with tricky hardware like laptops have.

I guess my point is, if you are going to be using Gentoo, I really recommend the experience of actually doing a manual install, especially compiling your own kernel; I never used the auto configured kernel. Admittedly, it will take time, but you will save time when you later have problems with Gentoo; and yes, if you use (abuse?) gentoo like I do, you will have some problems. And you will (hopefully) come to love gentoo, as you put in the hours getting it to work.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fittipaldi wrote:
Yes, I did update the installer and that's when I had better luck. Maybe I just don't have the patients to customize my box which is what I really want cause I know my computer well since I built it myself. There are just some many other thigs to do than mess with installing linux but, let's give it another try. I'm gonna get it. I hate to be a quitter......LOL!!!


I guess you should change that thread subject line (by editing your first post, the subject line). Don't do that to Gentoo, it doesn't deserve it :)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SORRY GENTOO!!!!! I LOVE YOU MAN!!!

hehe!!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we go again...damn. I'm using "sonicbhoc" advice with the manual install with PCLinuxOS LiveCD and following the handbook. I'm at the point where I'm extracting the stage 3 tar.bz2 file and I got an error. Here it is::

./usr/lib64/locale/tg_TJ.utf8/LC_CTYPE
./usr/lib64/locale/tg_TJ.utf8/LC_TIME
./usr/lib64/locale/tg_TJ.utf8/LC_NAME
./usr/lib64/locale/tg_TJ.utf8/LC_COLLATE
tar: ./usr/lib64/locale/tg_TJ.utf8/LC_COLLATE: Wrote only 4608 of 10240 bytes
./usr/lib64/locale/ar_YE/LC_NUMERIC
tar: ./usr/lib64/locale/ar_YE/LC_NUMERIC: Cannot write: No space left on device
tar: Skipping to next header
./usr/lib64/locale/ar_YE/LC_MEASUREMENT
tar: ./usr/lib64/locale/ar_YE/LC_MEASUREMENT: Cannot write: No space left on device
tar: Skipping to next header
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors


This is where it stopped. HELP HELP HELP
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like you have not mounted your partitions properly. What is the output of...

Code:

mount


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the output:

[root@localhost gentoo]# mount
/dev/root on / type rootfs (rw)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
none on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[root@localhost gentoo]#

Once I made my partitions with fdisk, I don't think I rebooted, can that be causing the problem?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you mount your partitions to the correct directories? Then cd to /mnt/gentoo, download and extract there.

See the http://www.tutorialmasters.com/Tutorials.item.19/gentoo-mounting-gentoo.html

and http://www.tutorialmasters.com/Tutorials.item.20/gentoo-stage3-file-installation.html

For a visual. If you have any misunderstandings from reading sometimes viewing will show you how.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

greetings, na its not the point you didnt reboot in my opinion,
its actually a problem with your "mounting"
as far as i can tell you you didnt do your mount steps right.
/dev/hda3 on / type ext2 (rw,noatime)
it should look like that above or similar,
just read mount --help, take the step on the handbook 4 e
you need to be in the livecd enviroment for that commands to work (i think)
# mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/gentoo
# mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot
# mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/boot


just read this and follow it exactly
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1

i needed to take hmm bout 10 installs until i get at least a basic system running.
dont care about the other things for now, just get the basic console running after a reboot(remember the reboot is quite late in the process.

if you got a problem and the kernels not working, but you have done anything else right until that point. you dont need to install again

just make this steps:
Code:
cd /mnt/gentoo
mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/gentoo
mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/boot
swapon /dev/hda2
mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc
mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev
chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
env-update
source /etc/profile
export PS1="(chroot) $PS1"


thats what i learned after 3 times installing and broke the kernel.
maybe you should try genkernel first.. (the kernel which is nearly the same as the live cd kernel)

and dont think its easy to learn .. the forum is absolutely your friend for the first weeks or month..

good luck you can do this :)



ps: wow my first post helping someone (at least i think i helped ^^)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuck on CFLAGS for make.conf file. Not to sure how to set.

this is what i have in there now (default)
CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

I want to replace CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe" with this:

CFLAGS="-mtune=athlon64 -march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe"

Is this right or am I missing something?
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