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tony11235
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Are there any tools that can tell me my monitor's capabilites, i.e vertical sync range? Laptop monitor that is.
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dforsyth
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:39 am Post subject: Re: monitor properties |
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| tony11235 wrote: | | Are there any tools that can tell me my monitor's capabilites, i.e vertical sync range? Laptop monitor that is. |
google?
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tony11235
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: monitor properties |
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| Ha1f wrote: | | tony11235 wrote: | | Are there any tools that can tell me my monitor's capabilites, i.e vertical sync range? Laptop monitor that is. |
google? |
I'm talking built in tools smarts. |
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tony11235
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok thats it, I'm sick of the combo of gentoo+ATI+laptop. Even when you do get ATI drivers to work, they still suck. Until they get better, I'm only using gentoo for desktops+NVIDIA. |
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I think google was a legit suggestion. You should have the model number, its not different from googling random numbers off of a miscellaneous bit of PCB to try and figure out who made it and what it can do for you.
THat being said I almost always go to google before I post, unless its a VERY specific question google can probably answer it in short order. |
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tony11235
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree about google as a prereq, but when you've done that for a while you might get pissed when someone suggests google again. |
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wynn
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| Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: monitor properties |
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| tony11235 wrote: | | Are there any tools that can tell me my monitor's capabilites, i.e vertical sync range? Laptop monitor that is. |
There is read-edid http://john.fremlin.de/programs/linux/read-edid/, for information on what EDID, and its partner DDC2, are, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDID and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_Data_Channel.
This information is also displayed by X in the Xorg.0.log and, if you don't have X working, runningorormay create an Xorg.0.log with the information you require in it.
However, laptops have LCD/TFT screens and these only have one resolution (pardon me if you already know this) so something like this | Code: | (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 6600 at PCI:1:0:0:
(--) NVIDIA(0): Iiyama PLE481S (CRT-0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Iiyama PLE481S (CRT-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: CRT-0
(II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:
(II) NVIDIA(0): "1280x1024"
(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1280 x 1024
(--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (85, 86); computed from "UseEdidDpi" X config
(--) NVIDIA(0): option |
may be all you'll get.
Another possibility is to look for the Windows .inf file for the screen which should have these numbers in the section for your screen.
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tony11235
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One of my problems is that I can't even generate an xorg.conf. The only drivers that support my card are vesa and fglrx.
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X Window System Version 7.1.1
Release Date: 12 May 2006
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.1.1
Build Operating System: UNKNOWN
Current Operating System: Linux Qubit 2.6.18-gentoo-r6 #4 SMP Fri Dec 29 17:39:
4 EST 2006 i686
Build Date: 29 December 2006
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Dec 29 23:49:35 2006
List of video drivers:
fglrx
vesa
Backtrace:
0: X(xf86SigHandler+0x85) [0x80c0858]
1: X(DoConfigure+0x209) [0x80b2f8b]
2: X(InitOutput+0x65f) [0x809e47a]
Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11. Server aborting
Aborted
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And I'm waiting to for my machine to finish updating to go with xorgconfig and guess some safe specifications. |
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tony11235
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I can't even get the vesa driver to work.
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Build Date: 30 December 2006
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Dec 31 18:17:22 2006
(++) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(EE) VESA(0): unknown type(0xffffffff)=0xff
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
Fatal server error:
no screens found
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Element Dave
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:05 am Post subject: Re: monitor properties |
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| tony11235 wrote: | | Are there any tools that can tell me my monitor's capabilites, i.e vertical sync range? Laptop monitor that is. |
| Code: | | emerge ddcxinfo-knoppix |
See whether that works. |
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tony11235
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:51 am Post subject: Re: monitor properties |
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| Element Dave wrote: | | tony11235 wrote: | | Are there any tools that can tell me my monitor's capabilites, i.e vertical sync range? Laptop monitor that is. |
| Code: | | emerge ddcxinfo-knoppix |
See whether that works. |
Thats the tool I was referring to. Thanks. Although I think the problem I'm experiencing is independent of monitor specifications. |
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wynn
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| tony11235 wrote: | I can't even get the vesa driver to work. | Code: |
Build Date: 30 December 2006
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Dec 31 18:17:22 2006
(++) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(EE) VESA(0): unknown type(0xffffffff)=0xff
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. |
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http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/3/13/128 seems to imply thatin the kernel is required for the vesa driver to work | Code: | Symbol: VM86 [=y]
Prompt: Enable VM86 support
Defined at arch/i386/Kconfig:341
Depends on: EMBEDDED
Location:
-> Processor type and features |
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ATI drivers can be tricky, but lots of people have them working. They certainly aren't incompatible with gentoo, but ATI doesn't do an excellent job like Nvidia does.
You have configured VIDEO_CARDS to only include 'vesa' and 'fglrx'; that's why those are the only two driver modules you have. Expanding your VIDEO_CARDS settings will give you more such driver modules. There are Radeon drivers, as well as older ATI drivers that are open-souce as well.
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tony11235
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Well I finally have the fglrx driving working after banging my head for a day. Just more ATI driver experience I guess. |
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tony11235
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| erik258 wrote: | ATI drivers can be tricky, but lots of people have them working. They certainly aren't incompatible with gentoo, but ATI doesn't do an excellent job like Nvidia does.
You have configured VIDEO_CARDS to only include 'vesa' and 'fglrx'; that's why those are the only two driver modules you have. Expanding your VIDEO_CARDS settings will give you more such driver modules. There are Radeon drivers, as well as older ATI drivers that are open-souce as well. |
Normally I would go with the open-source drivers, but I think the only drivers that currently work with the Mobility Radeon X1300 are vesa and fglrx. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:08 am Post subject: |
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In the latest gentoo-sources (2.6.19-r5) there's no option to "Enable VM86 support".
But when I do zcat /proc/config.gz | grep VM86
I get: CONFIG_VM86=y
Does anyone know why there's no option anymore? |
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miroR
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: CONFIG_VM86=? (how to enable?) |
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| abhidg wrote: | In the latest gentoo-sources (2.6.19-r5) there's no option to "Enable VM86 support".
But when I do zcat /proc/config.gz | grep VM86
I get: CONFIG_VM86=y
Does anyone know why there's no option anymore? |
No, I don't where that option should be. But I think there lies the reason why I can't install the ati-drivers.
With any of these kernels:
linux-2.6.25-rc3-git6
linux-2.6.24-zen3
But grepping:
grep -ri vm86 /usr/src/linux*/.config
returns an empty string. Nada. Null.
Vim style "/" and then "vm86" searching in /usr/src/linux-2.6.25-rc3-git6 once "make menuconfig" is fired up returns:
Symbol: VM86 [=n]
│ Prompt: Enable VM86 support
│ Defined at arch/x86/Kconfig:620
│ Depends on: X86_32 && EMBEDDED
│ Location:
│ -> Processor type and features
and "/" for "X86_32" returns overwhelming info:
Symbol: X86_32 [=n]
│ Symbol: X86_32_SMP [=n]
Where's that? My arch is based on Athlon 3500+, so x86_64
So much for now... Still stuck..
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miroR
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: no vm86 option, git-sources, ati-drivers |
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Does anyone know which of the latest from among:
http://gentoo-portage.com/sys-kernel/git-sources
work with ati-drivers?
I guess the latest:
git-sources-2.6.25_rc3-r6
and
ati-drivers-8.40.4
just don't mix...
Thanx. |
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miroR
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I put:
x11-drivers/ati-drivers ~amd64
into /etc/portage/package.keywords
I followed the guide:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_on_amd64
But emerging ati-drivers-8.455.2-r1 fails.
It's probably not worth putting all the (topmost first) errors in here, if I am heading in the wrong direction...
am I?
I'll try and see if the author of the HOWTO_ATI_on_amd64 is available... |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: monitor properties (+ X trouble ) |
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| tony11235 wrote: | | Are there any tools that can tell me my monitor's capabilites, i.e vertical sync range? Laptop monitor that is. |
emerge sys-apps/ddcxinfo-knoppix and run ddcprobe |
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miroR
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:03 am Post subject: vm86 option, git-sources, ati-drivers |
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This:
| miroR wrote: | git-sources-2.6.25_rc3-r6
ati-drivers-8.40.4 |
as well as
| miroR wrote: | x11-drivers/ati-drivers ~amd64
into /etc/portage/package.keywords |
in the case of little-care-for-Linux_and_NDA-and-things_by_bigMoney-ati-drivers...
is wrong...
This guide:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ATI_Drivers
warns clearly against. So my:
| miroR wrote: | ...emerging ati-drivers-8.455.2-r1
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(which failed) was:
| miroR wrote: | ...heading in the wrong direction...
am I? |
Sure!
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...if the author of the HOWTO_ATI_on_amd64 is available... |
No need anymore. But thanks for the guide.
I reverted to two days old backup. Had I not had it, I'm afraid I'd have to reinstall.
Thanks God. That would've killed me...
Now I have:
2.6.24-zen3
ati-drivers-8.40.4
And I finally fixed DMA which I wrote about in another post somewhere on Gentoo forums.
I'd like to draw kind readers' attention that in my case:
# zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i VM86
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returns no string. No such thing in my configuration, and my conf produced a fine working kernel ...
(in the HOWTO_ATI_Drivers there's the suggestion to:
Processor type and features --->
[*] Enable VM86 support
but it's only for x86 and some other archs maybe, I guess.) |
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| miroR wrote: |
I'll try and see if the author of the HOWTO_ATI_on_amd64 is available... |
Hi, I got your message. My howto is pretty outdated. It is 3 years old. I'm using nvidia now and a couple of things I did that time aren't necessary anymore. I didn't even know that someone has put my howto on the wiki. |
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