Beryl and Emerald in Portage

andrewd18 · Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:04 am Post subject: Beryl and Emerald in Portage

I think we can start the party now.

http://www.gentoo-portage.com/x11-wm/beryl
http://www.gentoo-portage.com/x11-wm/emerald
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Kaste · Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:59 am Post subject:

This is so great. No Overlays needed anymore. YES!

nesl247 · Veteran Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 1614 Location: Florida

Overlay is still required if you want to use xgl, or want the shortcuts for moving windows to a new viewport via the window decorations as libwnck is patched in the overlay, not in portage.

hoschi · Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject:

Still doesn't work. Just fu**ing white screen.
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nesl247 · Veteran Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 1614 Location: Florida

Ricky · Guru Joined: 30 May 2003 Posts: 341

I was initially excited to see beryl included in portage, as compiz hardlocks my system, but unfortunately beryl does the same thing.

Beryl gets to "Xgl not detected, trying nvidia. Nvidia not detected, trying AIGLX." (or something along those lines) and then the only thing my computer will respond to is is Alt-SysReq or a kick to the reset button.

I have an ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon 9000 (RV250) using the open source drivers and AIGLX, and I'm running a completely ~x86 system. My quest for help in the compiz threads has yeilded little, so hopefully beryl enthusiasts have some additional information. If there's any specifics about my set up that would be helpful, just let me know. Thanks.

VanDan · Guru Joined: 30 Sep 2002 Posts: 586 Location: Australia

It seems to be overly sensitive to timing at the moment.
Here's my .xinitrc:

Havin_it · Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:32 am Post subject:

Interesting! I've been doggedly sticking with compiz vanilla, but now these are in portage I might just have to give'em a whirl. It would be good to get rid of some of the Gnome dependencies.

Just wondering: can I leave compiz installed while I try out beryl, or should I quickpkg and unmerge it just to be safe? Also, am I likely to have to rebuild Mesa, libdrm and xf86-video-i810 again?

albright · Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:18 pm Post subject:

jmbsvicetto · Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:24 pm Post subject:

Hi.

Doogman · Apprentice Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 242

Not only can you have them both installed at the same time, but you can actually switch between Beryl and Compiz with the Beryl Setting Manager.

-BarneY- · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 91

I have to say, that I am not very happy about the situation now. Ok, we don't need an overlay any longer, but the portage-xgl overlay had weekly snapshots and ebuilds that provide direct svn-checkouts. Now they are gone and beryl is getting older and older. There are some cool new features, but I don't think, that the pre-releases will find their way into gentoo and we have to wait until the next "stable" release. What a pity...

nesl247 · Veteran Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 1614 Location: Florida

No, you can simply use the 9999 versions of the packages from the xeffects overlay.

-BarneY- · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 91

Ah, ok, tyvm.

Havin_it · Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject:

Went ahead and installed beryl, and my initial impression is: compiz ON CRACK!

It seems reasonably stable, and the same setup-tricks I used to get compiz working did the trick again. Memory-usage doesn't seem significantly greater than with compiz. Also there are no artifacts on video playback. But my dear lord, too many choices! I hardly know where to start with it all, and honestly I think maybe too much stuff is turned on by default. At first I was overwhelmed by all the unexpected things happening on certain mouse-movements etc. though I've got it a bit better under control now.

While I'm here, I wonder if anyone can tell me how to:
- turn off all annoying wibbly effects on menus and tooltips;
- Deactivate the expose-type effects from triggering when the mouse goes to the top-left or bottom-left corners;
- Stop maximized windows from unmaximizing when I peel them back;
- Prevent SuperKaramba themes from minimizing when Show Desktop is clicked?

scoobydu · Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:14 pm Post subject:

Havin_it · Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject:

roderick · Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:46 pm Post subject:

scoobydu · Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:01 pm Post subject:

sonicbhoc · Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject:

So is it better to emerge beryl through CVS?

nesl247 · Veteran Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 1614 Location: Florida

sonicbhoc I would say no. If you don't follow the commits and hang out in -dev, you'll never know when a problem arises and what not. I'd stick with 0.1.1 unless you have a bug fixed in svn. (Beryl doesn't use CVS)

roderick · Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject:

nesl247 · Veteran Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 1614 Location: Florida

I'll think about it. I dislike snapshots because the source changes so often. What I think I might do is make a wrapper script to just re-emerge all the beryl stuff.

bianco · n00b Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 54

albright · Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:54 pm Post subject:

"$DISPLAY" =! "DISPLAY"

it's the latter that tells X where to play so that's why it works

that's how it looks to me at least