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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: 1Gb DDR2 = ok. 2Gb = crash [SOLVED] Reply with quote

I have 2 x 1Gb DDR2 Ram. Together they ran without fail with Memtest86 for 8 hours. However, under heavy load, such as compiling, my computer locks up, or resets itself.

If I run the computer with just one DDR2 installed (and I have tried both), it's stable.

CPU: 2 Core Duo
Kernel: 2.6.19-rc6-mm2

Any ideas?

Stuart


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Power supply is not working correctly. A good (and not cheap) power supply e.g. from Seasonic or BeQuiet is a very good choice.
2. The switching power circuit for the CPU (contained on the mainboard) does work correclty.
3. The CPU cooler is not sufficient. A cooler from e.g. Scythe (Scythe Mine cooler) is a very choice.
4. The temperature in the computer case is too high.
5. The memory is not recognized correctly or the Ram modules are installed in the wrong memory slot.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keruskerfuerst wrote:
1. Power supply is not working correctly. A good (and not cheap) power supply e.g. from Seasonic or BeQuiet is a very good choice.


I have a new Seasonic 600W PSU. (Great minds think alike ;) )

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2. The switching power circuit (contained on the mainboard) does work correclty.


Dunno

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3. The CPU cooler is not sufficient. A cooler from e.g. Scythe (Scythe Mine cooler) is a very choice.


Watercooled. (I like my computers to be quiet). Besides, I would have thought it unlikely the CPU runs hotter with 2Gb

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4. The temperature in the computer case is too high.


Nope. Case is open right now.

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5. The memory is not recognized correctly or the Ram modules are installed in the wrong memory slot.


Would have thought Memtest86 would have picked that up.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Kernel: 2.6.19-rc6-mm2


Why are you using this kernel and not 2.6.19.2?

What type of mainboard do you have?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keruskerfuerst wrote:
Why are you using this kernel and not 2.6.19.2?


I need reiser4 support. It's a good point though. I did try the more recent 2.6.20-mm series, but found them to be very unreliable.

Are there any Kernel options I should be looking at? There is a setting for Flat or Sparce memory - I have it on Flat.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Kernel preemption: try to set it to off.
2. Flat memory is the usual setting. Sparse memory is for NUMA systems.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I guess you have support for 4GB memory turned on?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And I guess you have support for 4GB memory turned on?


Can't find that option, but I have 2GB in total (2x 1GB). I should also point out, that I am using a 64bit kernel.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your ram modules use dualchanel. check the timings in the bios. I had the same problems, because my ram modules are optimized for nforce boards and i have a via chipset.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think your ram modules use dualchanel. check the timings in the bios. I had the same problems, because my ram modules are optimized for nforce boards and i have a via chipset.


Thanks, I'll look into that.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

check the BIOS config for yr ddr2, mobo manufacturers tend to be very conservative
sure the timing wont cause any problems, but the voltage would.

I kept crashing out until I read that they are conservative, got CPU-Z (and a couple of other apps for BIOS-checking) and saw that the timing was slower (5-5-5-15 and not the 4-4-4-12 my RAM can do) as well as running at 1.8V !!! most DDR2 like 2.1V

since my RAM likes 2.1V (says it on the stick as well) upped it and everything fine since
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naib wrote:
check the BIOS config for yr ddr2, mobo manufacturers tend to be very conservative
sure the timing wont cause any problems, but the voltage would.

I kept crashing out until I read that they are conservative, got CPU-Z (and a couple of other apps for BIOS-checking) and saw that the timing was slower (5-5-5-15 and not the 4-4-4-12 my RAM can do) as well as running at 1.8V !!! most DDR2 like 2.1V

since my RAM likes 2.1V (says it on the stick as well) upped it and everything fine since


Exactly. I had problems with my new C2D system when I built it and could not figure out why. I looked at my mem voltage (which required 2.1v) and it was set to 1.8v in the BIOS by default.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FIXED! 8) It was indeed DDR2 memory voltage. I pushed it up a little.

Thanks all.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for the record: what is the brand and model of the memory you are using?
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