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beatryder
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I need some help here, I am trying to install the beryl svn builds, but I cannot figure out how....
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Osiris ryan # cat /etc/portage/package.unmask/beryl
x11-apps/xlsclients
x11-apps/xvinfo
>=x11-wm/beryl-9999
>=x11-wm/beryl-core-9999
>=x11-wm/emerald-9999
>=x11-plugins/beryl-plugins-9999
>=x11-plugins/beryl-dbus-9999
>=x11-misc/beryl-manager-9999
>=x11-misc/beryl-settings-9999
>=x11-themes/emerald-themes-9999
>=x11-libs/libwnck-2.14.2
Osiris ryan # cat /etc/portage/package.keywords/beryl
x11-apps/xlsclients
x11-apps/xvinfo
>=x11-wm/beryl-9999 -* **
>=x11-wm/beryl-core-9999 -* **
>=x11-wm/emerald-9999 -* **
>=x11-plugins/beryl-plugins-9999 -* **
>=x11-misc/beryl-manager-9999 -* **
>=x11-misc/beryl-settings-9999 -* **
>=x11-themes/emerald-themes-9999 -* **
>=kde-misc/kberylsettings-9999 -* **
>=x11-libs/libwnck-2.14.2
>=x11-wm/aquamarine-9999 -* **
>=x11-misc/beryl-settings-bindings-9999 -* **
>=gnome-base/librsvg-2.16.1
dev-python/pysvn
Osiris ryan # python /usr/portage/local/layman/xeffects/beryl-svn-ebuilds -i
Please be patient, this may take a moment...
The following packages are going to be emerge:
x11-wm/beryl
The total number of packages to be emerged is: 1
Would you like to emerge these packages?
[1] Yes
[2] No
Please enter 1 or 2: 1
Calculating dependencies
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "x11-wm/beryl" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- x11-wm/beryl-0.1.4 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
- x11-wm/beryl-0.1.99.2 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
- x11-wm/beryl-0.1.3 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
- x11-wm/beryl-9999 (masked by: missing keyword)
For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
Failed to emerge x11-wm/beryl, exiting...
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Any idea what I am doing wrong?
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| nesl247 wrote: | | "en" is not a valid beryl LINGUAS, use en_US for beryl at least.. I'm going to try and get a lot of this resolved upstream this weekend |
As a matter of fact, the LINGUAS configuration as specified by Gentoo localization guide seems to break regardless of the language. I've made another thread about this particular problem with my workaround in case someone faces the same issue, and to keep this thread more on topic. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| batistuta wrote: | | nesl247 wrote: | | "en" is not a valid beryl LINGUAS, use en_US for beryl at least.. I'm going to try and get a lot of this resolved upstream this weekend |
As a matter of fact, the LINGUAS configuration as specified by Gentoo localization guide seems to break regardless of the language. I've made another thread about this particular problem with my workaround in case someone faces the same issue, and to keep this thread more on topic. |
Turns out the person who tarballed the tarballs was using a broken intltool (GO ubuntu... not..). He's using an unbroken one for rc1, so this issue won't happen.
@beatryder: Don't use both -* and **, just **. |
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beatryder
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks nesl247
However that did not work....
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| beatryder wrote: | Thanks nesl247
However that did not work.... |
For one, you don't need package.unmask stuff for beryl.. Too, are you using portage-2.1.2-r4 or greater? |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| nesl247 wrote: | | beatryder wrote: | Thanks nesl247
However that did not work.... |
For one, you don't need package.unmask stuff for beryl.. Too, are you using portage-2.1.2-r4 or greater? |
upgrading portage did the trick! Thanks!
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I noticed a lot of users of xeffects, that use paludis have the problem with the new **.
Maybe it would be cool to say on the first post that paludis users need to use * instead of ** for keywords.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| zxy wrote: | I noticed a lot of users of xeffects, that use paludis have the problem with the new **.
Maybe it would be cool to say on the first post that paludis users need to use * instead of ** for keywords. |
Perhaps the paludis developer should implement support for the new portage formats?
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| beatryder wrote: | | zxy wrote: | I noticed a lot of users of xeffects, that use paludis have the problem with the new **.
Maybe it would be cool to say on the first post that paludis users need to use * instead of ** for keywords. |
Perhaps the paludis developer should implement support for the new portage formats? |
Or that people shouldn't use paludis at all?
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| beatryder wrote: | | Perhaps the paludis developer should implement support for the new portage formats? |
Why? Paludis is a seperate program with its own configuration format, there's no reason why it should be the same as Portage (and, for the record, Paludis had "*" before Portage had "**"). |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| pilla wrote: | | beatryder wrote: | | zxy wrote: | I noticed a lot of users of xeffects, that use paludis have the problem with the new **.
Maybe it would be cool to say on the first post that paludis users need to use * instead of ** for keywords. |
Perhaps the paludis developer should implement support for the new portage formats? |
Or that people shouldn't use paludis at all? |
I agree. Personally, I only support pkgcore and portage. I dislike the developers attitude (paludis). |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| nesl247 wrote: | | pilla wrote: | | beatryder wrote: | | zxy wrote: | I noticed a lot of users of xeffects, that use paludis have the problem with the new **.
Maybe it would be cool to say on the first post that paludis users need to use * instead of ** for keywords. |
Perhaps the paludis developer should implement support for the new portage formats? |
Or that people shouldn't use paludis at all? |
I agree. Personally, I only support pkgcore and portage. I dislike the developers attitude (paludis). |
Yeah, I agree. When reading the website, it was very abrasive when referring to portage. If I was a portage dev I might have been offended.
Also, on the note of who had '*' or '**': It does not matter, any tool that wishes to use the portage repository system and remain compatable with it must use the gentoo specs for it. That means that if the portage/gentoo devs make a change, any extra tool much change accordingly to avoid becoming broken.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what other devs are attempting to do with C/C++ implementations of portage, but the fact remains that the format for ebuilds and more specifically the keywording is 100% in the control of the gentoo/portage maintainers (That said, the do tend to listen).
Edit: FTR: I have tried paludis, and while it was fast, I was not impressed by it. I found that the documentation was lacking and expected too much knowledge from the end user. It appears to me to be a niche tool, and will likely become one of those programs which people either love or hate. I am the later, sure portage is slow, but it works in a predicable manner (at least for me)
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| beatryder wrote: | Also, on the note of who had '*' or '**': It does not matter, any tool that wishes to use the portage repository system and remain compatable with it must use the gentoo specs for it. That means that if the portage/gentoo devs make a change, any extra tool much change accordingly to avoid becoming broken.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what other devs are attempting to do with C/C++ implementations of portage, but the fact remains that the format for ebuilds and more specifically the keywording is 100% in the control of the gentoo/portage maintainers (That said, the do tend to listen). |
** is not part of ebuilds, it's a configuration thing only. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:50 am Post subject: |
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| beatryder wrote: | | Also, on the note of who had '*' or '**': It does not matter, any tool that wishes to use the portage repository system and remain compatable with it must use the gentoo specs for it. That means that if the portage/gentoo devs make a change, any extra tool much change accordingly to avoid becoming broken. |
* versus ** is purely a user configuration issue, and hence nothing to do with the repository format or gentoo specifications.
| Quote: | | Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what other devs are attempting to do with C/C++ implementations of portage, but the fact remains that the format for ebuilds and more specifically the keywording is 100% in the control of the gentoo/portage maintainers (That said, the do tend to listen). |
The ebuild format is controlled by Gentoo, though it's moving away from just the Portage maintainers. The configuration format is defined entirely by the package manager in question. |
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 I'm a little lost here: if I want the newest beryl, should I emerge beryl-9999 or beryl-1.99-2?
Which one is the latest? (I´m upgrading from beryl-9999, but from early January)
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| -9999 is the newest svn-version, so absolutely bleeding edge. The other one is the latest pre-realease and relatively stable. |
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Hmm how do you unmasked 9999 ebuilds as they don't have architecture ?
I am testing dual screen support of Beryl - I was told I need cvs version. But how I unmask those... putting them in /etc/portage/packages.unmask and keywords did not do it !
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Was about to delete my post.. response was too fast 
I never saw those ** before. But it works.
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How come there's no updates for my installed packages for over a week ? The tree itself is updates and the revision number is going up all the time, but:
| Code: | mindphaser koala # /usr/portage/local/layman/xeffects/beryl-svn-ebuilds --merge
Please be patient, this may take a moment...
There are no packages to emerge.
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| Koala Kid wrote: | How come there's no updates for my installed packages for over a week ? The tree itself is updates and the revision number is going up all the time, but:
| Code: | mindphaser koala # /usr/portage/local/layman/xeffects/beryl-svn-ebuilds --merge
Please be patient, this may take a moment...
There are no packages to emerge.
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Beryl has moved to git, that script won't work. It's only there until I figure out how to do a git version. |
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Ouch. Thank you, can't wait for the new script 
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hmm, i've been trying to find out what the hell git is and why this happened? I'm sure there's a reason but they dont provide any information on the front page about how to get the new builds of beryl.. rather annoying if you ask me..
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| xtlosx wrote: | | hmm, i've been trying to find out what the hell git is and why this happened? I'm sure there's a reason but they dont provide any information on the front page about how to get the new builds of beryl.. rather annoying if you ask me.. |
This should not affect you as GIT is the backend protocol which replaced SVN for downloading the repositories.
Basically, follow these steps to ensure you are up to date:
1) Do you use beryl-9999 versions which use GIT (if no, then none of these changes afftect you at all. Stop reading and forget you read this at all) 
2) I assume you are using layman (if not, you should - life is so much easier) to add xeffects overlay
3) Using layman, remove the old overlay, refresh the overlay cache, and re-add xeffects.
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layman -d xeffects
layman -f
layman -L
layman -a xeffects
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You probably don't need to do any of the above, but it's safe to start fresh, and have a sane setup to troubleshoot
4) Before attempting to rebuild any of the beryl packages, you should remove the old svn-src directory from distfiles.
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rm -rf /usr/portage/distfiles/svn-src
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5) You probably should unmerge your existing beryl/aquamarine/heliodor/emerald packages and re-emerge beryl (the mete ebuild).
Anyway, GIT is just a different repository back-end. The Beryl Project actually were the ones that made the change to their repo, so we just needed to update the ebuilds to talk GIT rather than SVN for the 9999 live builds. This does not affect layman, your ability to emerge, etc.
Any more questions, let me know.
PS: If you have specific questions regarding the xeffects overlay (good or bad) you should sign up at http://forums.gentoo-xeffects.org as that forum is the place where questions like this really get asked/answered regarding the overlay.
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