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ahmed76 n00b
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 22
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject: include stage3 and portage [solved] |
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Hi,
i'm tired!! , i was trying to install gentoo for a week now; but no one says i'm a failure, i already feel so.
but instade of downloading stage3 and portade every time i "fail", any posiblity to include (stage3 and portage) to the minimal cd?
if could, what the commants i need to tar from the cd?
i am nowbe to gentoo,
hope still there.
regards,
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54300 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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ahmed76,
Its not a failure - indeed you learn much more when things go wrong and you fix them then you do when everything just works. You will have a much better understanding now.
You can fetch the stage3 and portage snapshot on other media if you want to. e.g. CDROM or USB drive.
The minimal install CD has an option to run from memory, to free up your CD drive to do this sort of thing.
However, if your network operates from the liveCD, you are probably downloading the files to the wrong place.
The stage3 tarrball needs to be fetched to /mnt/gentoo after your root partition is mounted there. If you get it out of order, the install proceeds in your RAM.
After the stage3 is untarred in /mnt/gentoo, the portage snapshot needed to be downloaded to /mnt/gentoo/usr.
/mnt/gentoo/usr is created by untaring the stage3, so again, order is important.
The stage3 tarball does not change very often but the portage snapshot is updated dailiy, so its not practical to include them on the minimal liveCD.
Post here with what you did, what you expected to happen and what appeared to happen and we will try to talk you through the install. It occurs to me that you may have the wrong hamdbook, you need this onefor the minimal install. The other one is for the Graphical Install, which has reported problems at the moment. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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ahmed76 n00b
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 22
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:23 am Post subject: |
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thanks man,
another issue has show off, i am trying to solve but still i could not figure it out.
fdisk, it does not show the exist partions. but when i created the hda1, show me some thing like this:
Quote: | First cylinder (1-1, default 1): |
when i pressed 1 to create the frist partion immediately which i could not create the last cyldr.
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Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 1 105808+ 83 Linux |
and i could not make the other part. becauce there is not enough space.
regrd, |
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Paapaa l33t
Joined: 14 Aug 2005 Posts: 955 Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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From the HandBook
"We first create a small boot partition. Type "n" to create a new partition, then "p" to select a primary partition, followed by "1" to select the first primary partition. When prompted for the first cylinder, hit enter. When prompted for the last cylinder, type "+32M" to create a partition 32 Mbyte in size:"
Did you do exactly that? You can start over by quitting fdisk without applying the changes. If you need to, you can delete all existing partitions with the "d" command in fdisk. (Also explained in the Handbook). |
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ahmed76 n00b
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 22
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for your reply,
yes, followed exactly what in the book; i did it many time to be frank!
however, but the last time i did it i noticed this Weird thing. and i also noticed that there is a missing space from the hda. i have an 80G, but i could see only about appr. 76G i need the 4G back!
acculty the 4G, does not bother me much, but i could not repartition the hard disk now. i tryed to delete the old pations but, the fdisk could not locate any old partions.
any suggestions?
thanks
ahmed |
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i92guboj Bodhisattva
Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 10315 Location: Córdoba (Spain)
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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ahmed76 wrote: | thanks for your reply,
yes, followed exactly what in the book; i did it many time to be frank!
however, but the last time i did it i noticed this Weird thing. and i also noticed that there is a missing space from the hda. i have an 80G, but i could see only about appr. 76G i need the 4G back!
acculty the 4G, does not bother me much, but i could not repartition the hard disk now. i tryed to delete the old pations but, the fdisk could not locate any old partions.
any suggestions?
thanks
ahmed |
The manufacturers count: 1gb = 1000 x 1000 x 1000 bytes, 80 gb = 1gb x 80 = 80,000,000,000 bytes.
The "real" count on the way that a pc can count: 1 gb = 1024 x 1024 x1024 bytes, so,
80,000,000,000 bytes are -> 80,000,000,000 / (1024 x 1024 x 1024) gigabytes. That is 74.50580596923828125 acording to kcalc . So, what for your hd manufacturer it 80 gigas, for any OS under the sun is 74.5 gigabytes, or 76,000 megabytes, whatever you preffer. It is a question on how do they count, nothing happened to your hd, it is just that the space is counted in a different manner.
Some tools might count 1kb as 1000 bytes, but the usual thing is 1024. In any case, if you see 74.5 (gb) some times, 76,000 (mb) another times, or 80 (Gib) some others, you should not worry too much about it. |
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Paapaa l33t
Joined: 14 Aug 2005 Posts: 955 Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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ahmed76 wrote: | thanks for your reply,
yes, followed exactly what in the book; i did it many time to be frank!
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Please, do it again. First tell me what "fdisk -l /dev/hda" shows? Then follow the steps in handbook step by step (starting with deleting the old partitions) and please post the input (what you wrote - all the commands, all the enters...) and output (what you saw) in every step. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54300 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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ahmed76,
Quote: | Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 1 105808+ 83 Linux | shows that you have accepted the default for the end of the partition.
Delete this partiton.
Chose to make primary partition 1.
Accept the default (1) for the start.
Do not accept the the default for the end, instead enter this sets the end 32 MB from the start.
You may also use k and G. However, without the +, fdisk thinks you are giving a cylinder number.
I guess you are missing the + _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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those that do backups
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cyrillic Watchman
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 7313 Location: Groton, Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Paapaa wrote: | First tell me what "fdisk -l /dev/hda" shows? |
No, you want to use "fdisk -l" without specifying a device name because the harddrive may be /dev/hdc or /dev/sda or something else, rather than /dev/hda. |
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ahmed76 n00b
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 22
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:33 am Post subject: |
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Well, i would like to thank you all for your post and quick responce.
Quote: | No, you want to use "fdisk -l" without specifying a device name because the harddrive may be /dev/hdc or /dev/sda or something else, rather than /dev/hda. |
but i have disconnected all the other hard drives i have so the remained is "hda" 80g. to mention that when i used "cfdisk" i could only locate 56M; this explains why i could only create the hda1 +32M.
but for the hda2 +512M, i get:
does this mean any thing to you?
Quote: | 80,000,000,000 bytes are -> 80,000,000,000 / (1024 x 1024 x 1024) gigabytes. That is 74.50580596923828125 acording to kcalc |
Quote: | I guess you are missing the + |
sure i have + plus sign
I followed the book word by word because i am lacked with other options. |
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ahmed76 n00b
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Paapaa l33t
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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I repeat:
Please, do it again. First tell me what "fdisk -l /dev/hda" shows (or "fdisk -l" as cyrillic suggested)? Then follow the steps in handbook step by step (starting with deleting the old partitions) and please post the input (what you wrote - all the commands, all the enters...) and output (what you saw) in every step. |
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ahmed76 n00b
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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i was beating a dead horse.
I did what you said "fdisk -l" and i found i was on hdc instead of hda.
right now i am on stage3 and every thing running fine "so far"
thanks a lot. |
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jmbsvicetto Moderator
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 4734 Location: Angra do Heroísmo (PT)
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hi.
In case you're wondering why your /dev/hda showed as having a few MB, probably around 50 - 60MB, the answer is simple: it's your cd drive.
edit: 4000 _________________ Jorge.
Your twisted, but hopefully friendly daemon.
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ahmed76 n00b
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:57 am Post subject: |
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thinks jmbsvicetto for this info. i was really wondering and i wanted someone to inform me about it, |
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