[SOLVED]NTFS rw

[hvdb]

Hi all,

Currently trying to add my NTFS drive with ex-windows data to my gentoo.
I managed to mount it, but cannot get it in readwrite mode.

Here is my fstab:

/dev/hda1 /boot ext2 defaults,noatime 1 2
/dev/hda3 / ext3 noatime 0 1
/dev/hda2 none swap sw 0 0

/dev/hdb5 /mnt/datadisk ntfs noatime,users,gid=users,umask=000 0 0

/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,user 0 0
/dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 iso9660 noauto,user 0 0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto noauto 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
shm /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0

Problem is that the disk always remains in rx mode:
hvdb datadisk # ls -alrt
total 2364
dr-xr-xr-x 1 root users 0 Mar 3 2004 RECYCLER
dr-xr-xr-x 1 root users 4096 Apr 3 2004 Route66
dr-xr-xr-x 1 root users 8192 Aug 27 2004 diversen
dr-xr-xr-x 1 root users 4096 Sep 13 2004 Music
dr-xr-xr-x 1 root users 4096 Oct 31 2004 System Volume Information
dr-xr-xr-x 1 root users 16384 Jan 3 2005 tmp
dr-xr-xr-x 1 root users 0 Oct 26 11:51 share
dr-xr-xr-x 1 root users 0 Nov 4 14:01 N&S1
dr-xr-xr-x 1 root users 8192 Nov 5 14:52 .
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Feb 8 20:05 ..

Here is the fdisk info for the disk:
hvdb mnt # fdisk /dev/hdb

The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 9964.
There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
and could in certain setups cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
(e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/hdb: 81.9 GB, 81964302336 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9964 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdb1 2 9964 80027797+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hdb5 2 9964 80027766 7 HPFS/NTFS

Can I get the disk in write mode without using ntfs3g?

Thanks,

Hvdb

[yabbadabbadont]

Only if you recompile your kernel and enable the experimental and very limited ntfs write support. (the help description tells you how it is limited) If you need ntfs write support, your best option is to use ntfs3g...
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[hvdb]

After reading the help,

it seems it's best to follow your suggestion...The write support is really very limited

Can anyone tell me the steps to follow to enable this using ntfs3g then?

Thanks!

[yabbadabbadont]

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_NTFS_write_with_ntfs-3g
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[hvdb]

Thanks,

just what I need.

unfortunatly I already started in a slightly different way, I hope it has the sanme effect.

Instead of doing:

echo sys-fs/ntfs3g >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
echo sys-fs/fuse >> /etc/portage/package.keywords

I added

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" make.conf

And then emerged sys-fs/ntfs3g ==> Which is going ok for the moment.

I will verify if all goes well and if I can read/write to my disk afterwards.

Hvdb

[yabbadabbadont]

That's not a very good idea..... what you did basically tells portage to always install the latest testing version of every package you emerge. Expect problems.
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[PaulBredbury]

[hvdb]

Ok,

so I went back and used and removed the
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86"

to avoid problems...

So now, my disk is writeable, so my problem is nearly solved.

The first thing I did was remove most data from this disk, but for a few directories, I get the error:

"File exists"

hvdb diversen # rmdir *

rmdir: Cafe del Mar: File exists
rmdir: Kowlier2: File exists

When I try to remove the same directries (they are empty by the way) froim Win XP, I get:
Cannot remove folder, a file with this name already exists. Specify a different filename.

Any idea why this is going wrong?

Hvdb

[irgu]

[hvdb]

Ok,

I tried but no luck.

Here are my locales:

hvdb diversen # locale -a
C
POSIX
fr_FR
fr_FR@euro

And here my locale.gen file:
fr_FR ISO-8859-1
fr_FR@euro ISO-8859-15


So I updated fstab & re-mounted
/dev/hdb5 /mnt/datadisk ntfs-3g rw,locale=fr_FR,umask=000 0 0

And still get same error when deleting "File exists"

Did i do something wrong?


Here is an extract from the syslog:
Feb 19 10:49:43 hvdb ntfs-3g[1880]: Unmounting /dev/hdb5 ()
Feb 19 10:49:56 hvdb ntfs-3g[4291]: Version 0.20070118-BETA
Feb 19 10:49:56 hvdb ntfs-3g[4291]: Mounted /dev/hdb5 (Read-Write, label "", NTF S 3.1)
Feb 19 10:49:56 hvdb ntfs-3g[4291]: Options: noatime,rw,silent,allow_other,fsnam e=/dev/hdb5,blkdev,blksize=4096
Feb 19 10:50:16 hvdb ntfs-3g[4291]: Could not delete file

[irgu]

You need to generate and use fr_FR.UTF8.

[hvdb]

hmmmm

I did like you suggested, but still same problem:

hvdb diversen # locale -a
C
POSIX
fr_FR
fr_FR.utf8 ==> So is available now
fr_FR@euro

Updated fstab:
/dev/hdb5 /mnt/datadisk ntfs-3g rw,locale=fr_FR.utf8,umask=000 0 0

Even rebooted,

and still get same error:
hvdb diversen # rmdir Kowlier2
rmdir: Kowlier2: File exists

Other options?

Hvdb

[irgu]

Isn't Kowlier Belgian or Dutch? You need the UTF8 charater set your NTFS partition uses. It seems pure French is not OK because it can't convert all characters.

[hvdb]

Yes,

Kowlier is indeed Belgian. Is there a way I can verify which char set my NTFS uses?
In the mean time I will try to add the Belgian Locale and see what happens.

[bjlockie]

I use http://www.fs-driver.org/ to write ExtFS from Windows.
I only read NTFS from Linux.

[hvdb]

@Irgu,

changing locales to nl_BE or nl_BE.UTF-8 and updating fstab to
/dev/hdb5 /mnt/datadisk ntfs-3g rw,locale=nl_BE.utf8,umask=000 0 0

Did not change a thing unfortunatly.

I'm getting desperate...Any more ideas?

[irgu]

Try de_DE.UTF-8 and en_US.UTF-8.

[hvdb]

Solved!

Not sure if this did the trick, but i redid:

localedef -i nl_BE -f UTF-8 nl_BE.UTF-8

and then unmounted and remounted the disk, and I was able to remove teh remaining files!

Thanks for the help!

Hvdb