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pinkcameloy Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 130 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: Desktop environment without the extra material?[SOLVED] |
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Hello dear users
I have done a fresh install yesterday on my gentoo and today i am planning to install a desktop environment. My question is if i t is possible for me to install a desktop environment without any other following material. For example if i install kde it will pprobably also install konqueror and amarok.
Can i just install only the desktop enviroment and from then on try to install he programms manually?
By the way i am thinking of installing xfce?do you recommend?why?why not?
Have a nice day
pinkcameloy
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dj_farid l33t
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
First question: Yes.
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-split-ebuilds.xml
Second question: You will not get a good answer for this question. Everyone has their own taste.
You have to install xfce to feel how it feels. |
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tylerwylie Guru
Joined: 19 Sep 2004 Posts: 458 Location: /US/Georgia/Atlanta
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: |
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XFCE is a great choice, there's also gnome-light builds you can use that install barebones gnome, and as previously mentioned, the kde split ebuilds. |
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pinkcameloy Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 130 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:02 am Post subject: |
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I just looked a bit at the wili and it seems there must not be any light xfce one.is this true or did i not search correctly? |
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dj_farid l33t
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Xfce is light from the start.
If you want light, you can try fluxbox. It is even lighter. |
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pinkcameloy Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 130 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Dear users i wanted to ask you a simple question.
after this first installation through the handbook is it recommended that i install a desktop environment like xfce as it is described in the gentoo wiki or are there things that i should do first that should be done
pinkcameloy |
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dj_farid l33t
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Do according to the different wikis.
Also make sure to install kdm, gdm or some other manager that makes it easier to switch the desktop environment. |
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pinkcameloy Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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this kdm and gdm have to do with kde and gnome respectively. do i have to install these in order to be able to install xfce?
and nanother thing...
I was talking to a friend now and he told me that he sees no xorg in my etc and or x11 server and anything such and he told me that he believes that i should first install these
is this true? |
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nikaya Veteran
Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 1471 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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pinkcameloy wrote: | this kdm and gdm have to do with kde and gnome respectively. do i have to install these in order to be able to install xfce?
and nanother thing... |
kdm and gdm are able to start every DE/WM.
pinkcameloy wrote: |
I was talking to a friend now and he told me that he sees no xorg in my etc and or x11 server and anything such and he told me that he believes that i should first install these
is this true? |
Yes,true.If you install a DE/WM it will install xorg-x11 as dependency,but you have to configure it.You should firstly read this:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
and than run "emerge -av xorg-x11" _________________ Notes on Dhamma
How to waste your time: look for an explanation of consciousness, ask to know what feeling is. (Nanavira Thera) |
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pinkcameloy Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 130 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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I don t want to become boring or tiring
I will surely read this file that you told me and i ll surely do all these things that you just said because anyway i am really following the directions of the handbook
however
i need your opinion though if i also need to do the stuff about migrating and porting to the X modular that are said in the handbook right before how to configure the x server
and i also repeat something that you didn t answer to me.
can t i install xfce without messing with kde or gnome? |
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steveL Watchman
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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pinkcameloy wrote: | i need your opinion though if i also need to do the stuff about migrating and porting to the X modular that are said in the handbook right before how to configure the x server | Not on a fresh install. Set INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" and VIDEO_CARDS="vesa XXX" where XXX is according to your card eg ati. Then emerge xorg-x11. Read up on that first tho and ask on irc (irc.freenode.org #gentoo) if you're unsure.
Quote: | can t i install xfce without messing with kde or gnome? | Yes. |
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nikaya Veteran
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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pinkcameloy wrote: |
i need your opinion though if i also need to do the stuff about migrating and porting to the X modular that are said in the handbook right before how to configure the x server
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You can ignore the porting-migrating-to-modular-X-stuff.Installing a new Xorg will install only the modular X.The migrating instructions are out-of-date. _________________ Notes on Dhamma
How to waste your time: look for an explanation of consciousness, ask to know what feeling is. (Nanavira Thera) |
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pinkcameloy Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 130 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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thank you steveL
you really covered me in the first two topics.
about the installation of xfce (please don t consider me stupid:-))) )
you said that i can install it without interfering with kdm or gdm?)[/quote] |
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dschep n00b
Joined: 19 Jan 2007 Posts: 14
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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pinkcameloy wrote: | I just looked a bit at the wili and it seems there must not be any light xfce one.is this true or did i not search correctly? |
There is no xfce4-light ebuild however, xfce4 has a minimal USE flag. |
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dj_farid l33t
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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pinkcameloy wrote: |
you said that i can install it without interfering with kdm or gdm?) |
You can. But if you want to try some different environments gdm or kdm makes life easier when you want to switch between them. |
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pinkcameloy Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Posts: 130 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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thank you dj_farid |
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