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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: new emission-sources? Reply with quote

hey, after that comparison of kernel-mods, I tried the winner: emission-sources and came LOVE them...

that was about 6 months ago... and the latest version is still 2.6.18.... wtf....

is there gonna be another release?

If not... What else should I use (yes, I know this has been asked everywhere...). I used beyond before and liked them too.
for some reason MM-sources either dont boot, or my usb-ports just dont work... randomly... ?!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See this post: http://nesl247.org/2007/01/06/evolution-mission-sources-are-over/ . Then use viper-sources, it's made by the same person.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but on your link it says "beyond" would be the choice as it's the one emission merged into.... why viper and not beyond?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kEiNsTeiN wrote:
but on your link it says "beyond" would be the choice as it's the one emission merged into.... why viper and not beyond?


Vipernicus stopped working for beyond.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay.

so: are viper-sources faster than beyond-sources?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kEiNsTeiN wrote:
okay.

so: are viper-sources faster than beyond-sources?


I won't lie, the real question is: Which placebo has features you like more?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kEiNsTeiN wrote:
okay.

so: are viper-sources faster than beyond-sources?


viper-sources can acheive lower latencies than beyond-sources

Edit: predatorfreak called me out on this one, because i didn't answer your question. The question is, what is "faster"? Do you want more throughput? Do you want lower latencies? Do you want more interactivity?
If you want lower latencies, you can choose viper and select RSDL cpu scheduler and preempt-rcu.
If you want better throughput, you can choose viper ingosched or nicksched (with higher timeslice) adaptive readahead and no preempt.

Quick Comparison:
viper:
CPU Scheduler: Ingosched, Staircase, RSDL, Ingosched LL, Nicksched, SPA, Zaphod
Extras: Preempt-RCU (lower latenies), Adaptive Readahead (better throughput), additional drivers

beyond:
CPU Scheduler: Staircase
Extras: drivers
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you!

I dont really know what you mean by "latencies", but I guess it's the time delay between e.g. right-clicking and the apparation of the menu. So that's what I'm gonna try :)

emerging viper-sources using layman custom-kernels right now....

edit: what about skunk and no-sources? no appears to have a lot of patches as well, I dunno about skunk....
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kEiNsTeiN wrote:
thank you!

I dont really know what you mean by "latencies", but I guess it's the time delay between e.g. right-clicking and the apparation of the menu. So that's what I'm gonna try :)

emerging viper-sources using layman custom-kernels right now....

edit: what about skunk and no-sources? no appears to have a lot of patches as well, I dunno about skunk....


skunk and no use -mm as a base, which is a set of patches (few thousand) that are "in development" by kernel developers. -mm can house new drivers, or changes in drivers. Sometimes the new drivers don't work completely, and sometimes changes in the kernel code can cause other things to break. Sometimes new patches to -mm can yield faster performance in some areas.

Usually with -viper, I borrow some patches from -mm, but I'd never use it as a whole.

Out of the two though, I'd recommend skunk, since he's implemented splitsched (same as in -viper), and I can attest to it's stability at least.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so if I want a good desktop system with high responsivness, which should I choose? there is no RSDL in the list....

Code:
  1. Ingo Low Latency CPU scheduler (CPUSCHED_INGO_LL) (NEW)
> 2. Nicksched CPU scheduler (CPUSCHED_NICK) (NEW)
  3. SPA CPU scheduler (no frills) (CPUSCHED_SPA_NF) (NEW)
  4. SPA CPU scheduler (work station) (CPUSCHED_SPA_WS) (NEW)
  5. SPA CPU scheduler (server) (CPUSCHED_SPA_SVR) (NEW)
  6. SPA CPU scheduler (entitlement based) (CPUSCHED_SPA_EBS) (NEW)
  7. Zaphod CPU scheduler (CPUSCHED_ZAPHOD) (NEW)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kEiNsTeiN wrote:
so if I want a good desktop system with high responsivness, which should I choose? there is no RSDL in the list....

Code:
  1. Ingo Low Latency CPU scheduler (CPUSCHED_INGO_LL) (NEW)
> 2. Nicksched CPU scheduler (CPUSCHED_NICK) (NEW)
  3. SPA CPU scheduler (no frills) (CPUSCHED_SPA_NF) (NEW)
  4. SPA CPU scheduler (work station) (CPUSCHED_SPA_WS) (NEW)
  5. SPA CPU scheduler (server) (CPUSCHED_SPA_SVR) (NEW)
  6. SPA CPU scheduler (entitlement based) (CPUSCHED_SPA_EBS) (NEW)
  7. Zaphod CPU scheduler (CPUSCHED_ZAPHOD) (NEW)


Uncheck the "Show PlugSched Schedulers"
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