Mozilla to be removed from Portage

Beetle B. · Guru Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 524

As per the Gentoo Weekly Newsletter.

This sucks - someone please volunteer to maintain it.
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Please update the table of equivalents.
A Firefox guide.

davidgurvich · Veteran Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1063

The seamonkey project has continued from the mozilla codebase. The browser is quite good and accepts firefox plugins.

AllenJB · Veteran Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 1285

O V E R L A Y S

Use them. Stop whining.

Torangan · Apprentice Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 178

If you really need it and seamonkey doesn't help you - maintain it yourself?
I got bitten by this removal as well as I use monodevelop which had a runtime dependency on mozilla. First I hacked it to work with seamonkey, then I created a local ebuild for the latest version which I happily found to not require it anymore. Now seamonkey is gone as well as the hack and I'm happy. Took some of my time in between but well, such is life. Gentoo at least makes such things easy to do.

mark_alec · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:38 pm Post subject:

Mozilla is dead, that is why it is being removed. The Mozilla Corporation develops Firefox and Thunderbird, while the community maintains Seamonkey (replacement for the mozilla suite.)
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Carlo · Developer Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3356

Beetle B. · Guru Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 524

Bobnoxous · Apprentice Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 240

Presentation is important. If you had asked why it's being removed instead of saying it sucks that it's being removed, the responses probably would've been more polite as well. But, sometimes people respond abrasively anyway.

There are many people on these forums, and many do not have good interpersonal skills. If you recognize that people tend to take the written word in the most negative light possible (defense mechanism, I guess), and phrase your comments with that in mind, you'll generally get back more positive responses.

In any case, try to have a bit of a thick skin. You did get the answers you need.
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Beetle B. · Guru Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 524

Carlo · Developer Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3356

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PaulBredbury · Watchman Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 7310

Masking would be reasonable if there were no alternative programs to use instead.

However, Mozilla does have alternatives - see /usr/portage/www-client/*

Gergan Penkov · Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject:

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mikegpitt · Advocate Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 3224

The only problem I see with seamonkey is that there appears to be very few themes for it. I hope as the project matures this problem lessens. I liked using mozilla on my desktop (firefox on laptop), but now I'm not sure if I should keep the old buggy version of mozilla or upgrade and have it look ugly.

Beetle B. · Guru Joined: 01 Mar 2003 Posts: 524

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oot · n00b Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 49

Way off topic, butt it still looks like a good place to put this.
I found this thread with search terms "seamonkey sucks". i also think it sucks.
I was hoping to find some tips n tricks to make seamonkey less sucky.
--If that sort of whining offends youse, see the 'thick skin' suggestion above.
I have mozilla working great. But now that it's put to pasture, we all must eventually look to another browser.

I stopped posting to this forum long ago because of the pissiness and short tempers.
Tho it is a wealth of information, and there are people here well deserving of the status of guru,
there are other 'gurus' that easily see fit to belittle and put the less knowlegable in our places.
After reading this thread, i think i'm finally going to start checking into another distro.
Maybe i'll go back to slackware. When i used it b4, there weren't as many choices 'out o the box', but it just worked.
And no need for regular visits to a support forum.
It is really sweet to have portage grab the tarballs and apply patches, but i guess i can go back to doing it myself.
Seems like every time i search here anymore, i have to wade thru big headed posts digging into a guy that just wants a simple answer.
For those that feel the need to do that, we're not all 733t like you.
Everyone that is trying to enjoy the freedom of this distro doesn't have the vast knowlege and experience as you.
The way i interpret the original post (and are my sentiments, too) ;
'I liked mozilla. Seamonkey is not my cup o tea. I don't have the resources to keep mozilla active. Could any of youse?'
-Pardon me, Beetle B., if i'm off the mark.
But it didn't sound like whining to me. I can't see where he might have been begging for anything.
And for the inevitable snotty reply about my leaving gentoo-- scroo ya. Right in the face. Enjoy your distro, guru.
There's always ubuntu, mepis, knoppix, slackware, suse...

txboy · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject:

c0r0 · Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject:

wow seamonkey is great, i just want my box to be stable and i use seamonkey. it's better than firefox, in performance i think. firefox, hang more often than not
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abdullah · Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject:

WOW interesting thread...

Never had a problem with Firefox, but then only use it for UNI as they
don't allow the use of Opera... Opera is my default browser, which has
only ever hickuped when i ran out of HDD space...

Simple fact is that yes mozilla is gone get over it, it was just a port of
netscape (eeewww) personally I only had it in coz of the deps on it, which
are now gone...

txboy

If you read his full post you would see that he said at the end of it...