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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

forgive my ignorance, but I have never had to setup an outside ebuild, so what do i need to do besides untaring the ebuilds.... where do i put the tarball for the drivers
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The driver packages themselves go into /usr/portage/distfiles as usual. The ati-drivers.tar.bz2 file should be extracted into /usr/local/portage/media-video/ati-drivers (you may need to create that directory first, that's OK). When the ebuilds are extracted, run
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ebuild /usr/local/portage/media-video/ati-drivers/ati-drivers-3.2.0-r2.ebuild digest
ebuild /usr/local/portage/media-video/ati-drivers/ati-drivers-3.2.4-r2.ebuild digest

to generate digests for the two most recent ebuilds. Then you should be able to emerge them as normal (you'll need to use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86").
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

at school at the moment, I had a brief look at it this mourning and I noticed I can switch between gui (which turns off my screen) and console with the ctrl+alt+fx thingy, I'm pretty sure I set the monitor settings correctly, I know the refresh rates by heart by now aha
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try fiddling with the NoDDC, IgnoreEDID, and DPMS (in the Monitor section) options. Also, try setting the refresh rates for your monitor lower than they actually are, and see if that helps.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I go to bed, get up and your still going hard wedge, aha

ok I will when I get home, thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, it's 2.20 am where I am just now, so I'll be leaving shortly :D
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried changing around all those options and using low refresh rates but still now luck

Should I have "Synch buffer swaps with vertical synch signal" off? (its currently off)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you post your most recent XF86Config and logfile?

The sync buffer swaps thing shouldn't make any difference AFAIK. Another thing you could try is setting a value for the "VRefresh2" driver option. Start off at 60. I think you might need IgnoreEDID set to "on" for it to have an effect.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure my log file is almost exactly the same, as the last one I showed you

I'll boot into linux and try what you said with the Vrefresh2 thing
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing to try: if you've got something like this
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 Subsection "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        ViewPort    0 0  # initial origin if mode is smaller than desktop
#        Virtual     1280 1024
    EndSubsection

in your config, try putting a lower resolution as the first mode, to see if it'll start up like that.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

already tried only listing 640*480 resolution... now i'm getting an actual error for some reason

Off the topic: I'm just runnig fluxbox at the moment to see what its like and I want to start up gftp how do I run a program, without using xterm?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, tuxracer still seems to crash after a while. The music just keeps going in the background.
The Xfree log doesn't say anything, I'll probably have to turn off buffering in metalog to see anything from the kernel module that happened at the last moment...

Edit: seems buffering was off all the time.. There was only one error, something about allocation failed.
Any ideas? :(
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ex0 wrote:
already tried only listing 640*480 resolution... now i'm getting an actual error for some reason

What's the error?

ex0 wrote:
Off the topic: I'm just runnig fluxbox at the moment to see what its like and I want to start up gftp how do I run a program, without using xterm?

If you're going to use it a lot, the easiest thing to do is add it to the menu (~/.fluxbox/menu). Add a line like this:
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[exec] (gftp) {gftp}

and it should appear next time you display the menu. For running programs that aren't in the menu without an xterm, you can use fbrun. It just opens a little text window, you type in the program name, and it starts it for you. You could add an entry for that to the menu as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G-LiTe` wrote:
Well, tuxracer still seems to crash after a while. The music just keeps going in the background.
The Xfree log doesn't say anything, I'll probably have to turn off buffering in metalog to see anything from the kernel module that happened at the last moment...

Edit: seems buffering was off all the time.. There was only one error, something about allocation failed.
Any ideas?

Which version of the drivers are you using? Remember that the 3.2.4's are beta.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, just what I was after, I'm starting to like this 'fluxbox'

heres my x log I think: http://members.ii.net/~sampler/XFree86.0.log.old
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ex0 wrote:
Thanks, just what I was after, I'm starting to like this 'fluxbox'

And it doesn't take quite as long to compile as KDE does :D

From your XFree log:
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(EE) fglrx(0): [agp] unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV"
(EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP

This generally means that you don't have AGP support compiled into your kernel, or you have it compiled as modules but don't have the modules loaded.

Are you running a dual monitor setup?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a duel monitor set up but I have that monitor turned off and set it up as single monitor in fglrxconfig, should I try unplugging the second monitor?

when I do lsmod it says agpgart is loaded...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ex0 wrote:
I have a duel monitor set up but I have that monitor turned off and set it up as single monitor in fglrxconfig, should I try unplugging the second monitor?

I have no experience of using dual monitors, but from the log it looks like the driver detects both, so it might be worth a try.

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when I do lsmod it says agpgart is loaded...

OK, but you also need the module for your motherboard, ie "via-agp" or "nvidia-agp" or whatever.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

got ya, I had to modprobe via-agp as well, I'll try unplugging the other monitor and reconfiguring fglrx...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IT WORKED!!!! I could kiss you Wedge_!

I'm not sure if it was the unplugging of second monitor of modprobing via_agp though

running 1280 * 1024 @ 85Hz - beautiful, no more headaches for me

I'm retty sure it was having that second monitor plugged in, I've tried unpluging it before but that was when I was using a kernel that didn't support my chpset so it didn't work anyways...

Best day of my life, can't believe its finally actually working!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ex0 wrote:
IT WORKED!!!! I could kiss you Wedge_!

I'm not sure if it was the unplugging of second monitor of modprobing via_agp though

running 1280 * 1024 @ 85Hz - beautiful, no more headaches for me

I'm retty sure it was having that second monitor plugged in, I've tried unpluging it before but that was when I was using a kernel that didn't support my chpset so it didn't work anyways...

Best day of my life, can't believe its finally actually working!

Great to hear it :D Like I said before, I'm not the person to ask for dual monitor help, but at least you've got a working setup now.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh I don't even use the duel monitor I was just playing around with it, and it wasn't that handy in linux, but now I'm using fluxbox it seems like it actually could be handy, but I don't know if its worth the effort of setting it up.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, one more thing, is there an app for fluxbox that displays your folders and stuff like in gnome and kde (when you click on home or whatever), hard to explain what I mean

To navigate my system files with a GUI

- still so many other things I have to work out, I gotta get sound happening, configure this desktop to my liking and lots of other crap aha, but at least I can look at my monitor for longer than 2 minutes now
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ex0 wrote:
oh, one more thing, is there an app for fluxbox that displays your folders and stuff like in gnome and kde (when you click on home or whatever), hard to explain what I mean

To navigate my system files with a GUI

That kind of program is usually called a file manager. fluxbox doesn't have one built in, so you have to emerge one yourself. If you have KDE or Gnome installed, you can still use their file managers under fluxbox. There are plenty of others that don't depend on KDE or Gnome though. Try emerging emelfm (I use this), rox, or endeavour. There are also some threads about file managers and fluxbox in the forums, have a search around.

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- still so many other things I have to work out, I gotta get sound happening, configure this desktop to my liking and lots of other crap aha, but at least I can look at my monitor for longer than 2 minutes now

Yeah, 60Hz is "instant headache mode" :D
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For anyone that's using the 3.2.x drivers: I was looking at my log file and saw this
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(**) fglrx(0): EnablePrivateBackZ = NO

This option isn't in the file fglrxconfig generates, and I have no idea what it does, but adding
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Option "EnablePrivateBackZ"        "yes"

to the Device section in XF86Config gave me an extra 200-300 fps on glxgears and 5fps more in q3a. Not a big difference, but every little helps :)
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