Initng booting but a few niggles

Unclethommy · Guru Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 407

Hi there I have just started to get confidence in trying to make the system boot faster with initng. I have successfully installed version 0.6.7 and iflies version 0.0.5. I havent tried to install the latest versions as the last time i tried , it wouldnt boot up.

I have got initng to boot up fine evenually with no errors but I have a found comments which I would like to get working:

1) I cant get ngc command to work as it always keeps saying "Error connecting to initng socket" and I cant find out why. Due to this I cant shutdown with any commands. I can only reboot using Ctrl+Alt+Del. Shutdown -h does not belong to initng and doesnt aactually shutdown the computer.

2) my sound isnt working and i have tried to add alsasound and (as suggested in the wiki) add system/alsasound/cards even though there are no errors there is still no sound, it works fine if booting using my old sysinit system.

3) when running hdparm, the system hangs for a little while and complains that there are no devices under the appropriate names , this also results in me getting

mdeininger · Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject:

wwell, initng isn't exactly my field of expertise, but i guess i can hint you in the right direction anyway

2.) did you try using something like alsamixer to figure out if it's maybe just muted? also, did you set up the alsa modules using /etc/modules.d/alsa (see alsa guide) instead of simply relying on gentoo's auto-detection?

3.) looks like there's no udev up. 'cat /proc/mounts' should list something mounted at /dev if udev is running.

4.) i guess you need to back up the /etc/initng directory. that should do as there's not many other places an init can store+retrieve configuration from

hth
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Unclethommy · Guru Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 407

Thanks for the help. I understand you're the developer of einit. I tried einit but it was somewhat cryptic to set up and I dont think I am experienced enough to try to sort it out especially with the amount of trouble shooting and rebooting required to get a working new init system.

I know initng isnt your field but would you know how I am able to get udev running? do i simply run it manually such as /etc/init.d/udev start or something?

mdeininger · Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:36 pm Post subject:

Unclethommy · Guru Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 407

Thanks for posting back. I like einit and hope it gets developed so that laymans like me can use it. Looks really impressive

Good luck

Naib · Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject:

try baselayout2, it uses std gentoo conf files and in most cases just works (I think uberlord said there is issues with lvm's)
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mdeininger · Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject:

Unclethommy · Guru Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 407

so baselayout is like another form of init script? I will try to research. Is there a wiki or a help site which I can go to read more about how to install it? I cant seem to find a good HOWTO? I hope playing around with it wont damage my system? Is there a way to recover if I want to remove the package if it doesnt work?

mdeininger · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject:

Unclethommy · Guru Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 407

so it's a simple case of unmasking and emerging ? nothing else to setup unless some of the scripts dont load?

Naib · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject:

if your system boots fine with the std baselayout then just unmask baselayout-2 and enjoy the improvements.
no changing of grub.conf at all
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Unclethommy · Guru Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 407

Okay , so I took the leap and install baselayout 2-alpha-r1 , whilst installing it said that a lot of my dependencies needed a nonexistent module "net" and it asked me to do an etc-update.

After doing an etc-update and rebooting I have three notes:

1) I dont seem to have a net connection, it doesnt bring up net.eth0. Checking on the forums tells me this may be a common problem and that people suggest "creating a symulink to lo". COuld someone please elaborate on how to do this exactly as I dont want to screw the system up even up. Everything else seems to have worked fine.

2) The system seems to take a little shorter 1/2secs to boot but a lot longer to shutdown as it seems to stall at shutting down acpid. IS this normal?

3) I usually set DOWNINTERFACE=no so that I can get my wake on lan NIC working, can i do this in baselayout2? it seems to have removed it from the rc.conf file.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

mdeininger · Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:31 am Post subject:

that stall sounds a bit weird... anyway, let's see if we can help you a bit

1) i think they mean something like...

Unclethommy · Guru Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 407

I tried you suggestion of the link....

The system now boots but complains saying "brd Hostname lookup failure"

any ideas?

I am using the same /etc/hostname file as the one when the system was working... is there a different syntax perhaps?

mdeininger · Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:37 pm Post subject:

Unclethommy · Guru Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 407

Things started going pear shaped (and i dont know how much of it was to do with me preventing it from overwriitng some of my conf files with new ones after etc-update) but i had to uninstall the new baselayout and reinstall the old one after booting from a live cd.

I might try the alpha 3 when i get my courage back

mdeininger · Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject:

Unclethommy · Guru Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 407

Please let me know the progress.... i'd be eager to try it out when laymans like me can work it

good luck in the meanwhile