Gentoo 2007.0 GUI Installer is buggy

Volt_Craft · n00b Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 2

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dyn-westy · n00b Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 13

i'm having a problem too. but its different that the ones above but on the newest version (2007.0) when the install is complete it ask me to restart and i do that but when i reboot it doesnt load grub or anything just flashing line. what kind of problem is that? and also is it maybe the jmacron doing this? and also is it the fact that when livecd starts it says fail to allocate mem resource? and als there is a bug bios somewhere?

drescherjm · Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:25 am Post subject:

dyn-westy

Either you have no active partition on your boot drive or grub was probably not correctly installed on your boot drive.
Please do not attempt to reinstall gentoo as that will not fix your problem.

To fix the no active partition problem you can boot from the livecd with the nox paramater and then run fdisk on your boot drive and make sure the boot partition is marked active. Reboot and see if it works.

To fix the grub problem:
You need to boot the live cd with the nox param and follow this guide to chroot into your gentoo install:

http://gentoo-wiki.com/Chroot_from_a_livecd

and then follow the instructions here

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10

to install grub.
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rickj · Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject:

I've just done my first install of 2007.0 using the minimal CD, on an AMD64 architecture. I've never tried a GUI install, since I'm comfortable with a black-screen command-line environment, and I suspect it's a little faster. For that matter, this was my first ever AMD64 system. Everything went very smoothly until the base system was completely installed and self-booting (with lilo, which I've always preferred)

My problems began when I tried to install xorg-x11 and kde-meta.

1. The java environment was not completely set up. This was readily fixed by doing exactly what "java-check-environment" told me to do.

2. The DirectFB/libsdl circular dependency reared its ugly head. Fixed by "USE='-sdl' emerge DirectFB", then cleaning up with "emerge -DuavN world" after KDE was up and running.

In a perfect world these little things would be all smoothed out, but it's no big deal. The total install went *much* more smoothly than a 2006.1 install a couple of weeks earlier. The environment of 2006.1 was so out-of-date it was quite an elaborate exercise to update it so that newer packages would install.

To my mind the problem is that there is continual fast development in all aspects of Linux, and Gentoo keeps pace quite well. By the time any snapshot is taken and tested, it's already a little outdated. Six months later it is seriously mismatched to the current system. Perhaps after the "emerge --sync" following chrooting we should "emerge portage && emerge -Du world" before proceeding?

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wolfger · Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:49 am Post subject:

Right. My problems were with the LiveCD as well.
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Yeah. The AMD64 2007.0 LiveCD fails to create a filesystem for itself, and then ends up killing init, causing a kernel panic.
I'm going to see if I can do a fresh encrypted hard drive install with the Minimal... if not, it's back to 2006.1 I go.
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Matthijs70 · Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:45 am Post subject:

Hope somebody did read this reply from Andrew on bug report 177726, because it looks like there is some understanding of the ATI problems:

linuxcable23 · n00b Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 7 Location: Mn

A little Buggy i guess but oh well after i fixed the ATI issue i had a nice smooth install i really like the speed of a base install that was kinda nice and also the kernel config part its better when you can make your own kernel at base install over all some bugs but still a great Product i could not ask for anything more. and look on the bright side its not M$$ product that really sucks its just a little buggy its linux live with it

Saundersx · Apprentice Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 290

I picked up a new AMD X2 and shifted my old P4 as the new mythbox. Both installs went perfectly fine except for one issue, on the newer system I had to boot with "gentoo-nofb" to make the GUI fire up, otherwise it would freeze when loading every time (nvidia 6600GT and 7950GT respectively). Also I did the oldschool text-based install, you know, cfdisk, make menuconfig, caveman shit lol

rickj · Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject:

Of course, I'd have used

burlingk · n00b Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 6

Vlad.Sharp · Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject:

rickj · Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject:

Yesss, I found the stage1 is still there on the mirrors - I should stop taking notice of this "not supported" rubbish in the manual and just go ahead and use it. Thanks, Vlad.Sharp

BawheeD · n00b Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 14 Location: UK

I'm jumping on the bandwagon here too.

On the whole the release is okay, the system it built is sound apart from the usual system specific tweeking that you always need after a fresh install.

I think the new installer looks more professional than the last one but I was shocked at its lack of prompting with regard to modifying my partition table. I've lost my copy of Vista and all the data (southpark) on that partition all because I expected to queue up changes and apply them at the end like the last installer.

The paritioning issue with the installer was the only thing that really bothered me - I feel that this should have been mentioned on the press release in plain sight as its going to catch out a few people. I think a public beta period would have been a good idea.

I always get excited when I see a new gentoo release! So keep up the good work =)

rhomp2002 · n00b Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 20 Location: jamaica, ny

I thought it would only apply the changes and leave the rest of it alone. Result was I lost 4 other distros plus my Windows XP and the XP backup required a Windows OS to work so I essentially lost Windows completely.

If I wanted to delete the other partitions I would have gone for a complete install for the whole disk. Since I didn't do that then why did the partitioner clear off everything else. It really looked funny to see the Gentoo in sda2 with the swap in sda9 and the boot in the Grub MBR record. I did not appreciate this at all. It really makes me very leery about re-installing Gentoo again at all. :evil:

walter2 · n00b Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 3

I am fighting with linux since two years and I still think if you say "this software print Hello World" it must do that. In Linux, because of circumstances, it do not happen the 60% of times. It's reliability and interesting features finish in its Unix like architecture. You can do what you want but be honest, say that it is alfa software. Especially when takes a week installing it!
Gentoo offers 'choices', but it is a concept error, to have choices you need to have a start point, a base, a "SURE" default way of installing the distro. If don´t, it don't care if you know about other linux, unix distros, since the 'free software spirit of community' is the biggest lay. You may know a lot of linux but nothing about how emerge works. And if they, the developers who mounted it, are not able to get it working, how can a user do that?

wolfger · Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject:

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i92guboj · Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject:

rhomp2002 · n00b Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 20 Location: jamaica, ny

I think when Walter says Linux he is actually saying Gentoo.

I also had the problems with partitioning not doing what it said when I tried to install Gentoo. I had the problem with 2006.0, 2006.1 and 2007.0 My solution, since I did not care to take all that time to get a system working, was to install Sabayon which is based on Gentoo and has almost all the resources that Gentoo has. Their install just worked and then I have the luxury of time to get the whole panoply of Gentoo advantages at my disposal over time while enjoying the advantages that Gentoo offers in a minimal install. As I mentioned above every one but Gentoo seems able to get a quick install for newbies to use and then makes the rest of the experience available. Many of us want the speed that Gentoo offers and the edginess of Gentoo but still want to be able to use the system without dedicating our lives to it. Sabayon offers that with their live-cd while Gentoo blows a raspberry at us. Which do you think we will use under the circumstances? :evil:

i92guboj

wolfger · Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: