X.org Lockups (part III)

MM23 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 83

I was recently getting near-daily lockups until about 2 weeks ago. I'm not sure what exactly did it, but I think the upgrade to 1.3.0.0-r4 and going from nvidia-drivers-169.07 to 169.09 somehow fixed it.

I'm running on an Athlon 64 X2 6400+ with a GeForce 7900GS, which is really similar to a lot of the hardware people are mentioning in this thread. Strange stuff.

bhagany · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject:

So, I just upgraded to xorg-server-1.4 in an attempt to get DRI working with my Intel X3100. That problem is solved, but now, X locks up when I press control or delete. I've completely re-installed X, revdep-rebuild, etc. Has anybody else out there run into something like this?

edit: Looks like shift does it too.

Also, a little more info. When it locks, the screen becomes very distorted, I can't make anything out, and I can't do anything. I can't Ctrl-Alt-Backspace out of X, and I can't switch to a new terminal. I can, however, ssh in.

VinzC · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject:

@bhagany:

Have you recompiled your input drivers when you upgraded Xorg?
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bhagany · Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject:

VinzC,

Yes, I recompiled everything in x11-*.

I've been reading bugs since I posted, and I think this might have something to do with using a hardened profile. Some people have had similar complaints, at least. I've switched to a desktop profile, and I'm recompiling now. I'll post results here.

edit: similar bug here, for those with better skills than I. By the way, I'm making something of a leap (for me) in interpreting that bug thread the way I did. If switching profiles isn't what they're talking about, please don't hesitate to embarrass me.

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MM23 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 83

Great.

Upgrade to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r5 and the freezes are back, after nearly 3-4 weeks of flawless uptime.

No kernel logs, can't ssh after the lockups.

acarstoiu · Apprentice Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 192

MM23, what was your previous version of X? Do you have SuperKaramba running on your desktop?
Anyway, I somehow suspect that most of the people in here are running the latest ~x86 (or whatever architecture they have), which is x11-base/xorg-server-1.4.0.90.

bhagany · Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:48 am Post subject:

Okay, just reporting in. Switching from hardened to a desktop profile solved the problem I was having with X freezing on certain keypresses. I'm running xorg-server-1.4, mesa-7.0.2, and xf86-video-i810-2.2.0.90.

rada · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:17 am Post subject:

So I'm running xorg on my i915 and it keeps crashing. Notably when I'm trying to do many things at once.. like trying to post here. The error seems to be some problems with the ring buffer (whatever that is?).. after trying to restart Xorg without restarting my computer I get

rada · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject:

heres the error:

rada · Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject:

So I guess it may be using intelfb with i810 then

teddy_doc · n00b Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 25

Hi!

I'm suffering the same lockups now and then, especially when I leave my pc untouched for half an hour or more.

The last time the lockup occured I loged into my pc using ssh and I killed the superkaramba process. The X process keep working at 99% a few seconds more, but then it dropped to its usual 1-3%. So, I suppose it's superkaramba who was causing the lockups for me (fingers crossed).

Yours!

musv · Advocate Joined: 01 Dec 2002 Posts: 3337 Location: de

Lockups isn't the right phrase in my case. Since maybe 2 months (perhaps since upgrade to xorg-server-1.4) I get on my notebook (Dell Latitude c610, ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY) from time to time freezes.

In that cases X grows up to 95%-99% CPU Power. In last time that problem occures at least one time each day. I guess it occures, because my wife is using gimp all the time.

To get the notebook working again, I have to kill X with -9. Then gdm is rebooting but only in a screen resolution of 320x240 pixel. Thus I have to reboot the computer all the time.

Fred Krogh · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject:

The lockups I'm having kill the mouse and the keyboard, so kill -9 is not availaable. I also see no sign of anything in the log files after rebooting. These happen about every 2 to 3 days, but I'm not seeing a pattern there. This has been going on for about two or three months. I had thought that perhaps switching to the Firefox beta would help, but it seems about the same.

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Fred Krogh · Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject:

Nice idea, but the one time I tried to do this, it would not make the connection.

EndrjuX · Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject:

Ok I'm using Superkaramba and Aero AiO and some simple weather applet (not Liquid Weather) and X is going crazy if and only if I lock my session. It's started to doing so, when I upgraded to 2.6.24 and configured bootsplash with uvesafb, maybe it's something related to this?

I'm using 3d ogl screensaver (nvidia) from xscreensaver package (also for the first time like uvesafb), maybe native kde screensaver won't hang X?

Theory that superkaramba hangs X is a bit strange for me, because I've been using this combination for year and everything was fine.
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VinzC · Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:28 am Post subject:

ruivilela · Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:39 pm Post subject:

Nerdanel · Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:57 pm Post subject:

In my case the problem behind random lockups was my power source failing gradually. I've mentioned it before, but these threads are highly unwieldy and I don't know how many has seen it. I suspected everything from BIOS settings to new glibc to northbridge fan, but nothing worked, or the improvement was only temporary and only due to it making the system use less power. But then the power source would deteriorate further and the lockups would start occurring again and more often until I finally figured out what was wrong.

Check your power source!

ruivilela · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:33 am Post subject:

Nerdanel · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject:

I ended up having to buy a new power source to replace the one that had originally came with my Antec Sonata case. (I hear flaky power sources were a common problem with those.) Then the new power source turned out to be even more freeze-prone to the point that getting the computer to boot properly was a minor triumph and if it did boot it would freeze when I actually tried to do something non-trivial with it, so a day or two later I got it replaced for the warranty. They didn't have the same model in storage, so they gave me another, slightly more powerful one. It was an Antec again, but it has been going fine since. If nothing else, the extra wattage should provide some buffer against gradual failure.

I originally figured out what was going on when I noticed the bit in the motherboard manual that said that the things I had been experiencing could happen with overclocking - but I hadn't been overclocking.

I know I'm not the only person to experience something like this. In another forum there was this guy who would experience random freezes with Linux but not in Windows. When I suggested that the power source might be at fault (and Linux simply using the computer's resources more effectively than the old Windows XP) he switched the power source with another one he had lying around, and it fixed everything.

ruivilela · Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject:

I use only windows for playing, but this problems doesn't happen there. And it seems compiz is the troublemaker here, the system looks far more stable without compiz. (Un)fortunaly I use compiz since start.

TazG · Guru Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 320 Location: Canada

My laptop locks up whenever I run anything that uses opengl. It actually runs fine during it but then freezes as soon as I end the program. I've tried several different xorg, kernel, and nvidia driver versions - nothing has helped. The problem doesn't appear in Windows. It seems to only happen when the power supply is plugged in, and works fine on battery power. I tried a new power supply but it hasn't changed a thing. I'm out of ideas.

ruivilela · Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject:

About this strange behaviour of Firefox during scroll to lock X with compiz-fusion.

:idea:

Disable smooth scrolling on Firefox on advanced preferences. No problems until now.