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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Network works partly with newer kernels. Reply with quote

Hi all.
I have strange issue with my network while I'm trying to use newer kernels ( >2.6.16). My NIC got detected, it receives IP and everything seems OK except that I cant browse the web. I can ping myself, my router and other sites on the web. But I cant browse them. I tried few browsers (GUI and CLI) and when I try to view some website it says "Host connected. Waiting for reply...". And it lasts forever. No timeout errors or anything like that. I tried few kernels (2.6.17 - 2.6.20) - same story. Tried few distros and got same issue. For example SUSE 10.1 works, 10.2 not (kernel 2.6.16.13 and 2.6.18.2 respectively), Ubuntu 6.06 and 7.04 (kernel 2.6.15 works, 2.6.20 not).

But the strange thing is that Google always works. In fact I can search the web, search for images, but cant go anywhere outside of Google.

Tried different configurations: manual with static IP and automatic with DHCP - same story.
I'm sure that my DNS setting are OK too, because I can ping by site name.

I would really appreciate your help.

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My NIC is
nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm also having this problem, except I can't go to google at all.
However, I can go to other various sites; some work, some don't,
sometimes. :/

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you having this problem with only newer kernels or with all?
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contact your ISP, tell them you have routing problems.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AidanJT wrote:
Contact your ISP, tell them you have routing problems.

Mate, are you serious?
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, if your browser can open www.google.com and not other sites then it's a problem with their routing.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AidanJT wrote:
Yes, if your browser can open www.google.com and not other sites then it's a problem with their routing.


It's a problem from my side, because everything works fine with older kernels. Furthermore you know what they gonna tell me when they hear I'm using Linux ;)
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you running iptables, and if so can you post `ipables -L -v; iptables -t nat -L -v` ?
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope. Didn't install iptables :roll:
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

who's your isp? somebody huge?

what's your public ip? We can try to ping you
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

erik258 wrote:
who's your isp? somebody huge?

what's your public ip? We can try to ping you

Very funny. My ISP is the biggest in my small country. Even then they have some type of proxy. Discovered it when tried to put server on my PC. So even if I put my router in DMZ it wont help much :cry:
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone?
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you looked at Possibly a broken router, a response in Certain sites stall in Gentoo x64, no matter what browser.? Some time back, the Linux kernel was changed to use different defaults for some TCP control values. Unfortunately, there are some buggy routers out there that implement TCP incorrectly, and end up mishandling any connection which tries to use these new defaults.

I cannot remember which kernel version or which TCP values, though I think it had to do with TCP window sizing. Sorry I cannot be more specific.
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