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rkrishna
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 Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 6:35 am Post subject: radeon or fglrx for ati radeon xpress 1100 -acer laptop 5052 |
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i am really confused with both these modules - radeon and fglrx 
could someone please tell me hte difference between theese two?
i couldnt able to install x11-drm, will this have anything to do with this?
i am able to use fglrx, and i have few graphix problems, like
1. mouse trails, when i scroll mouse button, or grab/drag, there will be square shaped structure associated with mouse cursor, so that it leaves a tail.
2. system freezes when i log off
these may help
| Code: | tux ~ # fglrxinfo
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon Xpress Series
OpenGL version string: 2.0.6400 (8.35.5)
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| Code: | tux ~ # glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_OML_swap_method,
GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe,
GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
client glx vendor string: ATI
client glx version string: 1.3
client glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_ARB_multisample,
GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float, GLX_ATI_render_texture
GLX version: 1.2
GLX extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
GLX_ARB_multisample
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon Xpress Series
OpenGL version string: 2.0.6400 (8.35.5)
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array,
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| Code: | tux ~ # fgl_fglxgears
Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
980 frames in 5.0 seconds = 196.000 FPS
1078 frames in 5.0 seconds = 215.600 FPS
1177 frames in 5.0 seconds = 235.400 FPS
1192 frames in 5.0 seconds = 238.400 FPS
1176 frames in 5.0 seconds = 235.200 FPS
1175 frames in 5.0 seconds = 235.000 FPS
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| Code: | tux ~ # glxgears
5369 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1073.757 FPS
5378 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1075.459 FPS
5386 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1077.085 FPS
5365 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1072.923 FPS
5384 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1076.637 FPS |
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Kosmas
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Hi there,
the difference between the two modules (graphics drivers) is that fglrx is provided by ATI as is with no sources and radeon is the open source driver. Fglrx has DRI abilities but no composite extensions. Radeon on the other hand works fine but if you wan tDRI you have to use the r300 for rendering.
The system freeze thing happens to a lot of users with fglrx driver and direct rendering enabled. You can check some things, like kernel, xorg.conf settings to try to repair this situation but you have no guarantee.
As for the mouse trails you could set hardware cursor on or off at the xorg.conf and check it out. ( Some tricky kde styles still do that to me )
| Code: | | Option "HWCursor" "on" |
in the fglrx device section
Also you could get later versions of ati-drivers and try it all again.
Hope I helped a little  |
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rkrishna
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| Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 4:56 am Post subject: |
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thank kosmas,
ss i was wondering how dri is enabled without installing x11-drm, now i go tthe answer.
do it have something to do with vesa-fb, i enabled vesa framebuffer support, is it a problem?
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As for the mouse trails you could set hardware cursor on or off at the xorg.conf |
when i loaded the fglx driver all these happend.
i wil check and tel u
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Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
# sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards
# The following line is auto-generated by x11-misc/mkxf86config
# BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "fglrx"
VendorName "All"
BoardName "All"
Option "sw_cursor"
#Option "hw_cursor"
#Option "NoAccel"
#Option "ShowCache"
#Option "ShadowFB"
#Option "UseFBDev"
#Option "Rotate"
Option "DesktopSetup" "single"
Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
Option "UseFastTLS" "2"
Option "EnablePrivateBackZ" "on"
Option "UseFastTLS" "2"
Option "EnablePrivateBackZ" "on"
Option "Centermode" "off"
Option "HWCursor" "on"
EndSection |
there is one sw_cursor, also for hwcursor the speling is different.
interesting thing is that if i press ALT+CNTRL+Bkspace system will not freeze, so i wil try disabling dri and check wether it will work or not
i think u helped a lot, and i need more help from you..  |
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Kosmas
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:57 am Post subject: |
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I am glad I could help you.
There is a lot of things need to be done with the ATI proprietary drivers and we seem to have some more problems to come. As I read in an RSS freed there is a big chance that the ATI drivers will be open source soon. This would give ATI a big boost and would solve some of our problems.
If there is anything else I can help you with, please post. |
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rkrishna
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:29 am Post subject: |
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fglrx driver is bulky but font and look are so good and nice looking.
i fixed the mouse pro with commenting all stuffs related to cursor in the device section of xorg.conf
sytem freezing after log off is till not resolved, sometimes this happens (not always)
concept of blocked packages - how to do it consistently
for example
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tux OS-L-IconSet-Buildkit # emerge kwin --pretend
>>> cfg-update-1.8.0-r6: No new packages have been emerged, checksum index OK!
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kwin-3.5.5-r2 USE="arts -debug -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -xcomposite -xinerama"
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kwin-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.5-r4)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kwin-3.5.5-r2) |
i think i need to upgrade kde base to kde-new,
is it the pro?
if so how can i install old packages- respective packages for hte current kdebase installed on my machine |
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Kosmas
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:56 am Post subject: |
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I also have freeze in logoffs and I still wait for ATI to get it right. It is some combination of the driver and the kernel...
As for the packages you have different types of Blocked packages. One is that the package belongs to another bundle, like kwin belongs to kde so you can not emerge kwin on its own when you have kde installed. It is supposed to be installed already from kde. Also another blocked package can be from masked ( or hardmasked ) packages.
Cheers,
Kosmas |
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rkrishna
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:35 am Post subject: |
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ok so how can i install kwin separately
i emerged kde as a singlepackage like "emerge kde", also i didnt emerged it with hal, so automatic mounting is not working,
how shall i reenrege all kde, ?
another error
| Code: | Password:
Last login: Sat Jun 2 14:51:15 2007 on tty2
-bash: /etc/profile: Permission denied |
b'se of this a user cannot login.
but i fixed it with chmod 755 /etc/profile, will it cause problems later? what would have caused it show this error? |
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Kosmas
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:18 am Post subject: |
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You can emerge kde-base and kde-libs for what I know which at least gets the kde recompiled.
Also for the permission denied problem, the users can su only if they belong to wheel group.
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rkrishna
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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thank kosmas,
so recompiling or re emerging is done by simple "emerge'' command
i am busy with my work otherwise i would have find sometime reading all these.
my sound card was not working, so i thought i wil "emerge alsa-driver", and i got error message. i enabled sound card support as module, and alsa is not enabled
these are the last lines of "emerge alsa-driver"
| Code: | function 'snd_pci_orig_restore_state':
/var/tmp/portage/media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc2-r1/work/alsa-driver-1.0.14rc2/include/adriver.h:1167: error: too many arguments to function 'pci_restore_state'
make[4]: *** [/var/tmp/portage/media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc2-r1/work/alsa-driver-1.0.14rc2/acore/memalloc.o] Error 1
make[3]: *** [/var/tmp/portage/media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc2-r1/work/alsa-driver-1.0.14rc2/acore] Error 2
make[2]: *** [_module_/var/tmp/portage/media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc2-r1/work/alsa-driver-1.0.14rc2] Error 2
make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.21-suspend2'
make: *** [compile] Error 2
!!! ERROR: media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc2-r1 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1614: Called dyn_compile
ebuild.sh, line 971: Called qa_call 'src_compile'
environment, line 4308: Called src_compile
alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc2-r1.ebuild, line 129: Called die
!!! Make Failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant.
!!! A complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.14_rc2-r1/temp/build.log'. |
how can i install an old alsa driver? like alsa-driver-1.0.13.. the interesting thing was in ubuntu live cd sund was working fine |
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