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Paapaa
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 Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: Problematic font rendering |
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Please see this page:
http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/projects/cpufreq/
For some reason the capital N-letters are broken. The diagonal line looks too thick. This also applies to capital 'M' and 'A'. This doesn't happen in Windows XP. I have corefonts installed. Are you guys having the same problem? |
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Ehnvis
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I've got the same problem. Had a look on their css file
| Code: | body {
font-family:"Trebuchet MS",Trebuchet,Verdana,arial,Sans-Serif;
margin:0px 0px 20px 0px;
background:#cab9b0;
}
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And I think the problem has something to do with the Trebuchet font but I might be wrong.
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PaulBredbury
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Looks fine to me, using xeffects. Try viewing "Trebuchet MS" with fontpage.
I have:
| Code: | # ll /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/trebuc*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 123828 2007-04-10 15:25 /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/trebucbd.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 131188 2007-04-10 15:25 /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/trebucbi.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 139288 2007-04-10 15:25 /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/trebucit.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 126796 2007-04-10 15:25 /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/trebuc.ttf |
However, the corefonts directory is not specified in my xorg.conf. These are used in preference (copied from a Windows XP installation):
| Code: | # ll /usr/share/fonts/local/trebuc*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 123096 2007-04-29 23:35 /usr/share/fonts/local/trebucbd.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 131188 2007-04-29 23:35 /usr/share/fonts/local/trebucbi.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 139288 2007-04-29 23:35 /usr/share/fonts/local/trebucit.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134108 2007-04-29 23:35 /usr/share/fonts/local/trebuc.ttf |
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Paapaa
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: |
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| PaulBredbury wrote: | Looks fine to me, using xeffects. Try viewing "Trebuchet MS" with fontpage.
I have:
| Code: | # ll /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/trebuc*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 123828 2007-04-10 15:25 /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/trebucbd.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 131188 2007-04-10 15:25 /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/trebucbi.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 139288 2007-04-10 15:25 /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/trebucit.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 126796 2007-04-10 15:25 /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/trebuc.ttf |
However, the corefonts directory is not specified in my xorg.conf. These are used in preference (copied from a Windows XP installation):
| Code: | # ll /usr/share/fonts/local/trebuc*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 123096 2007-04-29 23:35 /usr/share/fonts/local/trebucbd.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 131188 2007-04-29 23:35 /usr/share/fonts/local/trebucbi.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 139288 2007-04-29 23:35 /usr/share/fonts/local/trebucit.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 134108 2007-04-29 23:35 /usr/share/fonts/local/trebuc.ttf |
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Could you try without the fonts copied from your XP and with the former fonts (ie. corefonts specified in .conf and the other removed)? Just to make sure the fonts are the reason. |
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PaulBredbury
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, the corefonts "Trebuchet MS" font still looks fine on that webpage and in fontpage. Try looking at it in fontpage.
My relevant versions:
media-libs/fontconfig-2.4.2 (from Portage)
x11-libs/libXft-2.1.12 (from xeffects overlay)
x11-libs/cairo-1.4.6 (from xeffects overlay)
BTW, there's no need to quote the entirety of what I just said - it just fills the page with duplicate text. |
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Paapaa
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| PaulBredbury wrote: | | Yeah, the corefonts "Trebuchet MS" font still looks fine on that webpage and in fontpage. Try looking at it in fontpage. |
I did and the N's look bad. Do you have similar ~/.fonts.conf:
| Code: | <?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
<match target="font" >
<edit mode="assign" name="rgba" > <const>rgb</const> </edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="hinting" > <bool>true</bool> </edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="antialias"> <bool>true</bool> </edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="autohint" > <bool>false</bool> </edit>
<edit mode="assign" name="hintstyle"> <const>hintfull</const> </edit>
</match>
</fontconfig>
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I'm using same versions except I have Cairo 1.4.4. I also have Freetype 2.3.4-r2 with -bindist USE flag so I should be using the high quality renderer.
| PaulBredbury wrote: | | BTW, there's no need to quote the entirety of what I just said - it just fills the page with duplicate text. |
I know, sorry for that, but I was in hurry and didn't bother to edit...  |
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PaulBredbury
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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My USE flags:
| Code: | $ emerge -pv fontconfig libXft cairo
[ebuild R ] media-libs/fontconfig-2.4.2 USE="xml -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild R ] x11-libs/libXft-2.1.12 USE="newspr -debug" 0 kB [1]
[ebuild R ] x11-libs/cairo-1.4.6 USE="X glitz newspr svg -debug -directfb -doc -xcb" |
My ~/.fonts.conf
| Code: | <?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
<!-- Info:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-511382.html
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xorg_and_Fonts
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XOrg_Font_Configuration
-->
<!-- Reject bitmap fonts in favour of Truetype, Postscript, etc. -->
<selectfont>
<rejectfont>
<pattern>
<patelt name="scalable">
<bool>false</bool>
</patelt>
</pattern>
</rejectfont>
</selectfont>
<!-- Replace Courier with a better-looking font -->
<match name="family" target="pattern">
<test name="family" qual="any">
<string>Courier</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="assign">
<!-- Other choices - Andale Mono, Courier New, Luxi Mono, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono -->
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans Mono</string>
</edit>
</match>
<!-- Replace Courier New with a better-looking font -->
<match name="family" target="pattern">
<test name="family" qual="any">
<string>Courier New</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="assign">
<!-- Other choices - Andale Mono, Courier New, Luxi Mono, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono -->
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans Mono</string>
</edit>
</match>
<!-- hintnone, hintslight, hintmedium, hintfull -->
<!-- Keep autohint off -->
<match target="font">
<edit name="rgba" mode="assign"><const>rgb</const></edit>
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign"><bool>false</bool></edit>
<edit name="antialias" mode="assign"><bool>true</bool></edit>
<edit name="hinting" mode="assign"><bool>true</bool></edit>
<edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign"><const>hintslight</const></edit>
</match>
<!-- Disable hinting for bold fonts -->
<match target="font">
<test name="weight" compare="more"><const>medium</const></test>
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign"><bool>false</bool></edit>
<edit name="hinting" mode="assign"><bool>false</bool></edit>
</match>
</fontconfig> |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:28 am Post subject: |
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NICE!
But I changed hintstyle to hintfull. I like hintfull better. 
Although hintslight makes it look more Vista-ish.
EDIT: Actually, the hintslight setting is rubbing off on me... But I think I'll be changing the font replacements to the Deja-Vu fontset, just to see how that turns out.
EDIT 2: Hintmedium and using DejaVu Fonts made my system look prettier than it's ever looked! Thank you so much for the fonts.conf!
By the way, when you have the fonts the way you like them, you can copy them to /etc/fonts/conf.avail/local.conf
I think putting them in /etc/fonts/conf.d/local.conf will have the same effect but I didn't try it.
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Paapaa
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| PaulBredbury wrote: | My USE flags:
[ebuild R ] x11-libs/libXft-2.1.12 USE="newspr -debug" 0 kB [1]
[ebuild R ] x11-libs/cairo-1.4.6 USE="X glitz newspr svg -debug -directfb -doc -xcb"[/code]
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Hmm, what is the "newspr" USE flag? It is not present in my libXft-2.1.12 which is not from an overlay. Maybe that causes the differences? .fonts.conf didn't have any effect.
PS. IMO "hintslight" looks bad. At least on my system "hintfull" gives superior results. |
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PaulBredbury
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Go read the xeffects thread I linked to earlier - it explains. |
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Paapaa
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder why the newspr is not in official ebuilds? |
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Vlad.Sharp
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| The captial N, M and A look bolder than they should (when they are not html strong). I'm using xeffects, ~x86, newspr and XP fonts. Full RGB Hinting enabled, with 96x96 dpi. Haven't touched any font configuration files myself, just let KDE/Xfce do it. |
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