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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: ALSA and Intel HDA - missing faders [SOLVED] Reply with quote

Just checking to see, if any has he same problem, as I am struggling with right now...

I emerged alsa-driver on a new Gentoo system, where my Intel High-Definition Audio is present, but - It might not be a problem, but when I run alsamixer, I get some strange channels to control - far from what windows had showed me - I got; Front, Line, Mic, IEC958, Caller I, Input and Off Hook - and I can only control a few of them - and still - no sound.

I would expect there to be a least a Master and PCM fader.

A little info about my system setup;

make.conf includes ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel usb-audio" (taken from a gentoo guide).
And I have a .asoundrc file in my home-directory;

Code:

pcm.hda-intel {
        type hw
        card 0
}

ctl.hda-intel {
        type hw
        card 0
}


Modules are loaded, as far as I know;

Code:

Module                  Size  Used by
snd_seq_oss            32128  0
snd_seq_device          9736  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq_midi_event      9728  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                45232  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm_oss            38816  0
snd_mixer_oss          17536  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_hda_intel          19224  1
snd_hda_codec         185856  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_pcm                64644  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer              20228  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    43748  11 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_device,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
snd_page_alloc         11144  2 snd_hda_in


I tried first with the kernel drivers, but got the same result - that is why I switched to the alsa-driver package.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same problem here, despite I got sound and a PCM slider... but no Master Vollume Slider...
just search for "master volume" in this forum und you'll find a lot of posts.

( https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-536867-highlight-asus+traps.html )

I found no sollution so far.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you really need a Master slider? Main volume is controlled through Front and PCM is just the alsa soft-vol plugin (meaning it changes volume in software). The apps where it counts (music players, video players) allow you to configure which slider they control. I've simply configured them to control Front.

@bennedk: You shouldn't need an .asoundrc file. Delete it, restart alsa and then you should have a PCM slider, but as I've said it's just a software plugin, it's not really needed.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay, and how to tell kmilo to mute the PCM?

Thats why I need a master volume. When I press the mute button on my keyboard kmilo tries to mute the master volume.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blubbi wrote:
okay, and how to tell kmilo to mute the PCM?

Thats why I need a master volume. When I press the mute button on my keyboard kmilo tries to mute the master volume.

If kmilo doesn't support such configuration, then it's lacking an important feature. You could file a feature request in the kde bugzilla or something.

I don't use kmilo, I have a custom .Xmodmap file for the multimedia keys. Then in kmix, I've configured these keys as shortcuts to do whatever I want to do, for example XF86AudioMute is the shortcut key for muting the Front slider.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I switched from kmilo to keytouch
Nice tool to configure the extra buttons.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gusar wrote:
@bennedk: You shouldn't need an .asoundrc file. Delete it, restart alsa and then you should have a PCM slider, but as I've said it's just a software plugin, it's not really needed.


Done - now I got rge PCM-slider as well. I have experienced that some software doesn't respond to my PCM fader, but that might be a bug?
And again - what is the purpose of the "Front"-fader?

Thanks for the help :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bennedk wrote:
Done - now I got rge PCM-slider as well. I have experienced that some software doesn't respond to my PCM fader, but that might be a bug?
And again - what is the purpose of the "Front"-fader?

'Front' is what actually controls the sound chip, while PCM is just an alsa software filter. The apps that PCM has no effect on - are they using OSS by any chance? If yes, it's normal, alsa's software filters won't have an effect on them.

My advice is to put PCM on 100% and then control volume with 'Front'. That's how I do it.
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