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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:17 am    Post subject: NTFS Network Share? Reply with quote

Situation:

I have an NTFS volume containing loads of old backups and general storage for my windows lap-top. This volume is a singly partitioned 250 GB IDE hard disk hooked up inside my server. The server now runs Linux. I can mount the NTFS volume in Linux and read it just fine with root. root seems to have "r--" and "dr-x" permissions to all files and directories, respectively. However, no other user is able to browse the volume because all permissions appear to them as "?????????? ?"

I believe this is why Samba won't successfully share the volume. It shows up in the workgroup when I browse the network in Windows, but trying to open and view the contents of the share fails with "access denied."

So what's my situation? Is there a work-around for serving NTFS volumes to windows clients that I can get in this forum? Is there a deeper and better solution I can get in another forum? Or am I just SOL, such that I need to go get another disk so I can move all the data to a Linux-compatible filesystem?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you try to mount with ntfs3g ?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I did not. The stuff I read about that said it's still a little untrustworthy, and I don't really want to lose anything on this drive.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moriakul wrote:
No, I did not. The stuff I read about that said it's still a little untrustworthy, and I don't really want to lose anything on this drive.

Very interesting. I thought based on the apparently quite rigid driver quality assurance and users' testimonials from http://www.ntfs-3g.org/quality.html that the driver is trustworthy. Personally I've been using it in different environments without any issue since it became stable half year ago and both samba and NFS read/write exporting of the NTFS drive works just fine (read-only mounts are also supported). Btw, NFS support requires the FUSE kernel module from the FUSE package, not the vanilla kernel one.

Do you remember where you read it's still untrustworthy and what it exactly means? I'd be very interested to know since we use it very intensively. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could install vmware-server and make a windows image. Give the windows image that physical volume and use file sharing from the virtual machine. It would take a bit of ram but its nothing major if you only use the Windows for filesharing and disable every service you don't need.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

arndawg: Yeah, I'd just begun to think along the same lines in a general way. Thank you for the specific advice. However...

irgu: Mostly in wikis and HOW-TOs that are probably out of date on that subject (and, as I now try to find them again, seem to have mostly disappeared... Conspiracy, says I). Based on your testimony and the information on that page, anything I found must have been very out of date. That's some pretty thorough bashing-about that they give it for quality control. I can't imagine that my volume would offer anything they haven't seen. I'll look into this further. Maybe I'll grab a few of the critical files from the drive before I try it, just 'cause I should be backing stuff up anyway and I'm paranoid, but it looks like -3g might just have me covered.

Is there anything I need to know, Gentoo-specific, before I work on installing ntfs-3g? What's this about updating or changing FUSE support?

(Thank you both for your input.)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ntfs-3g is stable and reliable.

If you have a recent kernel with fuse patched into it, you don't need to worry. Ditto if you have the latest fuse package from portage.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So just have an up-to-date Kernel and emerge the latest FUSE driver? I'll do some research, but this sounds like the way to go.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, should do it. I've been using NTFS-3g over various network shares for a while, it's not a problem.
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