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wheelrunner n00b
Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 11 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject: Web site displays in windows. but not linux [Solved] |
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So here's the deal...
There is a web site www.business-supply.com that I can access fine in windows, but won't come up in linux, even on a wget. The site has no windows specific content (I've seen the source code for the site).
On linux I get a 200 status code, and part of the html...then it hangs. I have a co-worker who gets the same issue on a Mac, but his wife sitting beside him on a windows box can see the site just fine.
Anyone ever heard of this before or have any suggestions? I'm pulling my hair out over this one!
Thanks in advance! _________________ The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it.
--Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
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Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 3792 Location: sleeping in the bathtub
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Well, the title and favicon both come up...
Have you tried changing your browser's user agent string?
It would help if you could post the html you can see from windows.
Btw in windows, can it be viewed in firefox, or only ie? _________________ "You have to invite me in" |
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wheelrunner n00b
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for taking a look!
In windows it displays in IE and Firefox.
The html in all it's glory:
<!-- Just open the 'Homepage' Department. -->
<!DOCTYPE html
PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"
>
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Business Supply, Discount Office Supplies, Breakroom Supplies, Ink & Toner</title>
<meta name="keywords" content="discount office supplies,breakroom supplies,ink & toner,mailroom supplies,janitorial supplies,office supplies,office supply,office furniture,ink cartridges,laser toner cartridges,bulk office supplies,basic office supplies,cheap office supplies,home office supplies,business office supplies,small business supplies,school supplies" />
<meta name="description" content="Shop Business Supply For All Of Your Discount Office Supplies! Find a variety of Breakroom Supplies, Ink & Toner and Office Supply products." />
<meta name="robots" content="index,follow" />
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
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<link href="favicon.ico" rel="shortcut icon" />
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<div id="logo">
<h1 style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">
<a href="/">
<img style="margin-bottom: -5px;" border="0" src="/images/new_site/BSLOGOFinalR.gif" alt="Office Supplies from Business Supply" />
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<div class="cartValue">0</div>
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function NewWindow(url) {
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<h1 class="deptHeader">Welcome to Business Supply</h1>
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Shop Business Supply for all of your office supply needs! At Business Supply we strive to be your only source for convenient, one-stop shopping for discount office supplies, Office Technology, Office Furniture and more. Since 1999 we have been offering a wide variety of discount office supplies to meet all of your business supply needs. You get free shipping on most orders over $50 and most arrive next business day. At Business Supply we strive to be your choice for all of your discount office supplies, office technology, and office furniture. Also please take a look at our selection of Breakroom Supplies, Janitorial Supplies, Warehouse Supplies, and Mailroom Supplies. Hows that for simple?
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<center><bold><font color="#336797">Be Sure To Shop Our Specials: <a href="office-supplies.jsp" style="color:#666666">Office Supply Specials</a> & <a href="toner-ink-cartridge.jsp" style="color:#666666">Toner Specials</a></font></bold></center>
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"I wanted to thank you for your impeccable service and quality of products! Talk about lightning shipping. I received all of my orders in 1 day! The customer service is 5 star and your staff is very friendly and helpful. You have earned a faithful customer in myself. Thanks a million" Annie - Janesville, CA
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<script src="https://seal.verisign.com/getseal?host_name=www.business-supply.com&size=M&use_flash=NO&use_transparent=YES&lang=en" type="text/javascript"></script>
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</div> <!-- //container -->
<script src="https://ssl.google-analytics.com/urchin.js" type="text/javascript">
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_uacct = "UA-639930-1";
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Sadako Advocate
Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 3792 Location: sleeping in the bathtub
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Huh, that's weird.
With links I get this much before it "stalls"; Code: | <!-- Just open the 'Homepage' Department. -->
<!DOCTYPE html
PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"
>
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<title>Business Supply, Discount Office Supplies, Breakroom Supplies, Ink & Toner</title>
<meta name="keywords" content="discount office supplies,breakroom supplies,ink & toner,mailroom supplies,janitorial supplies,office supplies,office supply,office furniture,ink cartridges,laser toner cartridges,bulk office supplies,basic office supplies,cheap office supplies,home office supplies,business office supplies,small business supplies,school supplies" />
<meta name="description" content="Shop Business Supply For All Of Your Discount Office Supplies! Find a variety of Breakroom Supplies, Ink & Toner and Office Supply products." />
<meta name="robots" content="index,follow" />
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
<!-- The following meta tag is for google sitemaster. -->
<meta name="verify-v1" content="CraNwPLdTBQ21UvrlqW/vGT/iDXepQhwdGnBkMkOS1o=" />
<link href="favicon.ico" rel="shortcut icon" />
<style type="text/css" media="all">
@import "/common/styles/root.css"; @import "/common/styles/elements.css";
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="container">
<div id="header">
<div id="logo">
<h1 style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">
<a href="/">
<img style="margin-bottom: -5px;" border="0" src="/images/new_site/BSLOGOFinalR.gif" alt="Office Supplies from Business Supply" />
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</a>
</h1>
</div>
<div id="chat">
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<TABLE BORDER=0 CELLPADDING=0 CELLSPACING=0>
<TR><TD height=59 width=134>
</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<div id="shoppingCart">
<a href="/shopping_cart.jsp"><img border="0" src="images/new_site/cart_title.gif" alt="My Shopping Cart" /></a>
<div id="cartLeft">
<div style="width: 100%;">
<div class="cartLabel">Items:</div>
<div class="cartValue">0</div>
</div>
<div style="width: 100%;">
<div class="cartLabel">Subtotal:</div>
<div class="cartValue">$0.00</div>
</div>
</div>
<div id="cartRight">
<a href="/shopping_cart.jsp"><img src="images/new_site/cart_view.gif" border="0" alt="Go To Cart" /></a>
<a href="/checkout_shipping_and_billing.jsp"><img src="images/new_site/cart_checkout.gif" border="0" alt="Go To Checkout" /></a>
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</div> <!-- //header -->
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<div style="float: left;"><a href="/"><img class="tab" style="border: none; height: 26px;" src="images/top_tabs/home.gif" alt="Home" /></a></div>
<div style="float: left;"><img class="tab" style="border: none; height: 26px;" src="images/top_tabs/header_spacer.gif" alt="" /></div>
<div style="float: left;"><a href="/office-supplies_1.html"><img class="tab" style="border: none; height: 26px;" src="images/top_tabs/office_supplies.gif" alt="Office Supplies" /></a></div>
<div style="float: left;"><img class="tab" style="border: none; height: 26px;" src="images/top_tabs/header_spacer.gif" alt="" /></div>
<div style="float: left;"><a href="/office-furniture_2.html"><img class="tab" style="border: none; height: 26px;" src="images/top_tabs/office_furniture.gif" alt="Office Furniture" /></a></div>
<div style="float: left;"><img class="tab" style="border: none; height: 26px;" src="images/top_tabs/header_spacer.gif" alt="" /></div>
<div style="float: left;"><a href="/office-technology_5.html"><img class="tab" style="border: none; height: 26px;" src="images/top_tabs/office_technology.gif" alt="Office Technology" /></a></div>
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I don't know what the hell is wrong with it.
Check to see if it validates against http://validator.w3.org from windows. _________________ "You have to invite me in" |
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wheelrunner n00b
Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 11 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Well, that was fun. I went to validate it and it hung on the w3c site.
My guess is they've got a linux server back there pulling the page down to validate it, and that linux box can't pull down the page any better than we can.
I've been looking at this for 2 days now and can't figure what would make a page stop loading and just hang when windows gets it all.
This is madness, madness I say! _________________ The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it.
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Napalm Llama Guru
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 533 Location: Cardiff, UK
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:58 am Post subject: |
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It sounds like they might have some kind of user agent checking in the script used to serve those pages. That would explain why nothing shows up in the HTML - it simply doesn't bother sending the HTML to hosts that say they aren't Windows.
Do you have any way of examining the headers your browsers (both Win and Lin) send to the server, and then copying the Windows browser's User Agent into wget ? Something like Wireshark would do the job. _________________ Ryzen 5600x; Asus TUF Gaming B550-Plus; Geforce 1660 Super
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wheelrunner n00b
Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 11 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:28 am Post subject: |
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I've done that by hand using the -U in wget, and also used the Firefox extension that does this, setting the user agent to that of IE 7. No dice.
Also, I believe if that were the case I should get nothing back, not a partial page? _________________ The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it.
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Akkara Bodhisattva
Joined: 28 Mar 2006 Posts: 6702 Location: &akkara
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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According to tidy run on a copy-paste of the html you posted. This is what it said:
Quote: | line 9 column 75 - Warning: unescaped & which should be written as &
line 10 column 80 - Warning: unescaped & which should be written as &
line 11 column 140 - Warning: unescaped & which should be written as &
line 179 column 683 - Warning: replacing invalid character code 128
line 179 column 684 - Warning: replacing invalid character code 153
line 182 column 9 - Error: <bold> is not recognized!
line 182 column 9 - Warning: discarding unexpected <bold>
line 182 column 146 - Warning: unescaped & which should be written as &
line 182 column 229 - Warning: discarding unexpected </bold>
line 457 column 1 - Warning: <img> element not empty or not closed
line 560 column 1 - Warning: discarding unexpected </div>
line 40 column 1 - Warning: <table> lacks "summary" attribute
line 187 column 1 - Warning: <table> lacks "summary" attribute
line 452 column 1 - Warning: <table> lacks "summary" attribute
line 455 column 1 - Warning: <td> attribute "valign" has invalid value "center"
line 457 column 1 - Warning: <img> lacks "alt" attribute
Info: Doctype given is "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
Info: Document content looks like XHTML 1.0 Transitional
15 warnings, 1 error were found!
This document has errors that must be fixed before
using HTML Tidy to generate a tidied up version.
Character codes 128 to 159 (U+0080 to U+009F) are not allowed in HTML;
even if they were, they would likely be unprintable control characters.
Tidy assumed you wanted to refer to a character with the same byte value in the
specified encoding and replaced that reference with the Unicode equivalent.
The table summary attribute should be used to describe
the table structure. It is very helpful for people using
non-visual browsers. The scope and headers attributes for
table cells are useful for specifying which headers apply
to each table cell, enabling non-visual browsers to provide
a meaningful context for each cell.
The alt attribute should be used to give a short description
of an image; longer descriptions should be given with the
longdesc attribute which takes a URL linked to the description.
These measures are needed for people using non-graphical browsers.
For further advice on how to make your pages accessible
see http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL. You may also want to try
"http://www.cast.org/bobby/" which is a free Web-based
service for checking URLs for accessibility.
You are recommended to use CSS to specify the font and
properties such as its size and color. This will reduce
the size of HTML files and make them easier to maintain
compared with using <FONT> elements.
To learn more about HTML Tidy see http://tidy.sourceforge.net
Please send bug reports to html-tidy@w3.org
HTML and CSS specifications are available from http://www.w3.org/
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Firefox here seems to display your page OK. But then, I don't have javascript turned on. Perhaps the problem it is JS related? It seems to hang accessing your site, perhaps a bandwidth or server configuration issue. |
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wheelrunner n00b
Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 11 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, well wget and curl have issues with the site, so I'm thinking it's not a javascript issue.
The thought now by the network guys here is that some linux distros are using a different source port than windows and some other OSes. They are looking to see if it's a firewall issue. _________________ The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it.
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Hu Administrator
Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 23064
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Consider also whether it could be MSS related. This thread caught my attention because it sounds very similar to a problem described in the iptables manual: Code: | TCPMSS
This target allows to alter the MSS value of TCP SYN packets, to con-
trol the maximum size for that connection (usually limiting it to your
outgoing interface's MTU minus 40). Of course, it can only be used in
conjunction with -p tcp. It is only valid in the mangle table.
This target is used to overcome criminally braindead ISPs or servers
which block ICMP Fragmentation Needed packets. The symptoms of this
problem are that everything works fine from your Linux firewall/router,
but machines behind it can never exchange large packets:
1) Web browsers connect, then hang with no data received.
2) Small mail works fine, but large emails hang.
3) ssh works fine, but scp hangs after initial handshaking.
Workaround: activate this option and add a rule to your firewall con-
figuration like:
iptables -t mangle -A FORWARD -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN \
-j TCPMSS --clamp-mss-to-pmtu
--set-mss value
Explicitly set MSS option to specified value.
--clamp-mss-to-pmtu
Automatically clamp MSS value to (path_MTU - 40).
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wheelrunner n00b
Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 11 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:24 am Post subject: |
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So, here what turned out to be the issue (pardon my mangling of this, I'm not a network guy)
In the spring there was something added to the Linux kernel related to sliding TCP windows, apparently if the client and server agree to that they both support it, they'll use this feature.
Well, if you have a newer kernel (>2.6.6) then you have this feature. Unfortunately, the aging 4-year old firewall being used in this case didn't, but the server did. So, if the client was a modern Linux kernel based system, then the client and the server would agree to use sliding TCP windows. They would start communicating...the firewall would say "Wot's all this now?" and block the traffic the first time it went outside what it considered acceptable boundaries.
Solution for now: Disabling sliding TCP windows on the server, so the client and server don't agree to use them. Wait for an upgrade of the firewall. _________________ The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it.
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