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santaclaws
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 Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| lefou wrote: | | santaclaws wrote: |
Does it work for you?
I have been trying to get xorg-server-1.4 to work but without success. 
Now I am recompiling xorg-server-1.3 and hope that things are getting done quickly. |
Yes, of course, as I wrote above. You could try to do the following. Run
| Code: | | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge world -uDpv | less |
and see if there are any x11 related package which are not in there latest available version, e.g. any x11-drivers/xf86-input-* driver or media-libs/mesa or other x11-libs/* stuff. Update these and then try a generic xorg.conf by logging in as root on the linux console. To generate it, run . This will probe your hardware and generate a generic xorg.conf.new. You can then test it by running | Code: | | X -config xorg.conf.new |
That was it. Now you can add some more settings. I added the Option "XkbLayout" "de" to the kbd input device and the following lines to enable composite and render extension.
| Code: | Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
Option "Render" "Enable"
EndSection
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Copy that version to /etc/X11 and you are done. |
Hmm.. I will think about that. Thanks.
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i-right-i
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Matteo Azzali wrote: | | i-right-i wrote: | | I have been able to get Xorg 7.3 and the Nvidia Binary drivers to work. I guess I am one of the lucky ones that the -ignoreABI option worked for. ..... |
Grrrrr I had 5 hours crowded with black screens of death before I realized that I had no way to get it working even with
-ignoreABI, the worst thing was that there wasn't any error in the log (well, after I reemerged a couple of packages
and removed wacom from the conf file...). Too bad most of the net was saying it could work, however in the end
I rollbacked all xorg as it was the previous day, I'll nevermore understimate the xorg issues on next upgrades. |
Are you using composite? If so, did you disable it as per the suggestion earlier in this thread?
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Matteo Azzali
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| i-right-i wrote: | | Matteo Azzali wrote: | | i-right-i wrote: | | I have been able to get Xorg 7.3 and the Nvidia Binary drivers to work. I guess I am one of the lucky ones that the -ignoreABI option worked for. ..... |
Grrrrr I had 5 hours crowded with black screens of death before I realized that I had no way to get it working even with
-ignoreABI, the worst thing was that there wasn't any error in the log (well, after I reemerged a couple of packages
and removed wacom from the conf file...). Too bad most of the net was saying it could work, however in the end
I rollbacked all xorg as it was the previous day, I'll nevermore understimate the xorg issues on next upgrades. |
Are you using composite? If so, did you disable it as per the suggestion earlier in this thread?
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I disabled anything but glx (both composite extension ,argb... and glxwithcompos...) and still I had just bsod.
I re-emerged the drivers 4 or 5 times.
I had some fallbacks (vesa nv and vga) but they aren't much worth
for what I do with X (mostly graphics, 3D and videos), so I rollbacked.
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Abraxas
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| I finally got it working. Unfortunately the so-called EXA improvements haven't made a single difference in performance for me. Text scrolling is still incredibley slow and accelerated video still performs worse than unaccelerated video. |
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agent_jdh
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:56 am Post subject: |
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How do you get EXA working? I've fallen back to the nv driver, and as per the nv man page, I've added the following 2 lines to the Device section in xorg.conf -
| Code: | Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy" |
However looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log after restarting the X server, it says it's using XAA and gives me a warning about the above 2 additions -
| Code: | (WW) NV(0): Option "AccelMethod" is not used
(WW) NV(0): Option "MigrationHeuristic" is not used |
My card is a 7600GT (i.e. pre-G80), and so it should be supported.
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frank1980
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| xorg-7.3 works fine here, and still use nvidia-drivers by ignoreABI, beryl also has a good performance. But just the problem that numlock and capslook lights can't change their status. Is it a bug? |
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Sadako
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Abraxas wrote: | | I finally got it working. Unfortunately the so-called EXA improvements haven't made a single difference in performance for me. Text scrolling is still incredibley slow and accelerated video still performs worse than unaccelerated video. |
I haven't had a single issue with the upgrade so far, aside from the keyboard led's not working which I didn't even notice 'till I read about it here.
I haven't noticed any major improvements in performance, other than one;
Before the upgrade when I used the mouse to pan in large images in feh (say twice the monitor resolution) it was slow as hell, and had been since at least xorg 7.0, but all of a sudden it is beautifully smooth.
I've never encountered any of the other issues with exa you've mentioned.
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Abraxas
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Hopeless wrote: | | Abraxas wrote: | | I finally got it working. Unfortunately the so-called EXA improvements haven't made a single difference in performance for me. Text scrolling is still incredibley slow and accelerated video still performs worse than unaccelerated video. |
I haven't had a single issue with the upgrade so far, aside from the keyboard led's not working which I didn't even notice 'till I read about it here.
I haven't noticed any major improvements in performance, other than one;
Before the upgrade when I used the mouse to pan in large images in feh (say twice the monitor resolution) it was slow as hell, and had been since at least xorg 7.0, but all of a sudden it is beautifully smooth.
I've never encountered any of the other issues with exa you've mentioned. |
Are you using an Intel card? If so what does your xorg.conf look like and what are your hardware specs? I just read on Slashdot that the intel drivers won't work well with EXA until EXA is stabilized more. Who knows how long that is going to be? I'm getting pretty fed up with unaccelerated video. |
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Sadako
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Abraxas wrote: | | Are you using an Intel card? If so what does your xorg.conf look like and what are your hardware specs? I just read on Slashdot that the intel drivers won't work well with EXA until EXA is stabilized more. Who knows how long that is going to be? I'm getting pretty fed up with unaccelerated video. |
Ah, sorry, I'm using a radeon 9250.
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tranquilcool
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| Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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for issues regarding nvidia-drivers,
remember that the startx comand is;
startx -- -ignoreABI
you can edit kdmrc and use;
-ignoreABI
where you have the ServerArgsLocal
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Schmolch
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| the_pearson_person wrote: | | Personally I want it for the new version of RandR so I can use compiz-fuzion on my tri-monitor setup! |
How's it going with that?
I can't try it myself since im using nvidia but i didn't hear about them making such a significant xinerama-upgrade. |
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Schmolch
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:52 am Post subject: |
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im confused about the xorg-7.3/nvidia situation.
In the channel everybody including mzbot says it doesn't work but here you say it does.
What is it? |
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tranquilcool
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| Schmolch wrote: | im confused about the xorg-7.3/nvidia situation.
In the channel everybody including mzbot says it doesn't work but here you say it does.
What is it? |
it works for me following the instructions i wrote few messages before.
if mouse freezes, just remerge xf86-input-mouse and dispatch-conf(etc-update) using the new config files.
disable the composite section in xorg.conf.
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Aphax
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| Schmolch wrote: | im confused about the xorg-7.3/nvidia situation.
In the channel everybody including mzbot says it doesn't work but here you say it does.
What is it? |
I was told the same. But it works for me. Obviously not for everyone though, so I'd advise against upgrading to 7.3 unless falling back to nv temporarily until NVIDIA releases an updated driver is a viable option. |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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I tried upgrading, but EXA is more broken than ever and 3d performance is worse. As such, I'm stuck on 7.1 for the foreseeable future. When I use EXA, the window title fonts are really weird. The text is restricted to a fixed sized rectangle in the title bar and text that would exist on either side of that rectangle is not shown. Fonts also take up more space (but the letters are the same size), even without EXA enabled. EXA is still slow when enabled. For example, switching virtual desktops with a compositing manager (even xcompmgr with server-side compositing enabled) is really slow. Drawing is slow and flickery, etc. I also had a glxgears FPS around 700, versus the 1600 I normally get.
I have an ATI X300, btw. It works great with Xorg 7.1. EXA performance is stellar and almost beats Windows, even with compositing enabled.
The EXA regressions have happened in some way or another with every release of X past 7.1. I've posted to the Xorg mailing list, without much in the way of results. I'm beginning to despair that they'll ever fix it. I think I'll wait for fglrx to include AIGLX support so I can just use Compiz and forget EXA. |
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nitm
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What is the proper way to stay on xorg 7.2?
Is masking of ">=x11-base/xorg-server-1.4 && >=x11-base/xorg-x11-7.3" enough or I should mask all new packages?
I am on an ~amd64 with nvidia binary driver |
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i92guboj
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| nitm wrote: | What is the proper way to stay on xorg 7.2?
Is masking of ">=x11-base/xorg-server-1.4 && >=x11-base/xorg-x11-7.3" enough or I should mask all new packages?
I am on an ~amd64 with nvidia binary driver |
I masked those:
| Code: | >=x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.4
>=x11-proto/renderproto-0.9.3
>=x11-base/xorg-server-1.4 |
I use nvidia, but I don't have xorg-x11 in my world file, I just emerged xorg-server and the few pieces I needed. |
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Phlogiston
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Xorg-server 1.4 seems to work here on my ati x300, but as soon as I want to terminate the X-server or switch to console the X or sometimes the whole machine freezes. I already tried disabling framebuffer, but no success.
Anyone has an idea?
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mtascii
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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works like a charm here.
the only think i had to do was to re-emerge xf86-input-mouse |
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pman35
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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I am also running an ATI X300. xorg-server-1.4-r1 mostly works. Compared to xorg-server-1.3, it shows a decent
2D performance e.g. when scrolling web pages with Seamonkey, and EXA is considerably faster than XAA.
(Seamonkey's performance was horrible under xorg-server-1.3/xorg-7.2, both with XAA and EXA, as soon as some
flash app had to be drawn, that's why I took the ~amd64-version)
I can confirm, though, that glxgears shows something around 800 fps with EXA, while with XAA I get ~1400 fps.
xorg-server-1.4-r1 never crashed on this machine, the only problem I have is some graphics artefacts, e.g.
in kile: the auto-completion feature shows a context menu. When this menu disappers, the rect underneath is not
redrawn. Similar artefacts (regions that need updating are not redrawn) appear during scrolling in various apps.
Beryl is not really useable, and scrolling is slow in konsole, though 2D performance is good at most times.
I think this card will never yield a decent 3D performance for eye candy such as Beryl. |
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I've gotten the display stuff to work with the new drivers (except that metacity doesn't start as it should which is probably a whole other problem) but now my mouse isn't detected in X. I re-emerged xf86-input-evdev and xf86-input-mouse + keyboard, but to no success...
I've tried recompiling the kernel + modules, so I'll get back to you when I've rebooted.
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mtascii
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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how do i enable EXA or XAA.
glxgears works here fine
| Code: | glxgears
32657 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6531.255 FPS
22616 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4523.120 FPS
32691 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6538.131 FPS
35294 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7057.866 FPS
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here is my xorg.conf
| Code: | Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/corefonts/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/artwiz/"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "extmod"
Load "dbe"
Load "record"
Load "xtrap"
Load "glx"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbLayout" "de"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "RTK"
ModelName "Monitor"
HorizSync 30.0-80.0
VertRefresh 56.0-75.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Option "UseEdidFreqs" "false"
Option "NoLogo" "true"
Option "RenderAccel" "true"
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "nVidia Corporation"
BoardName "Unknown Board"
VideoRam 256000
BusID "PCI:6:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "enable"
EndSection |
any surgestions on tweaking my config.
i have an nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce 7600 GT] |
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pman35
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| mtascii wrote: | | how do i enable EXA or XAA. |
Just put
| Code: | | Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" |
in your device section. XAA should be enabled by default, this will
switch to EXA.
| Quote: | | glxgears works here fine |
I am not surpised that you get decent performance with a 7600GT 
In fact, I also intend to get that card. |
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