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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: X.org 7.3 Reply with quote

Just curious: anyone know what the Gentoo plans are for X.org 7.3 (out today) and Xserver 1.4?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where'd you here that xorg-server 1.4 was released?

The latest I can find on the mirrors is 1.3.99.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Where'd you here that xorg-server 1.4 was released?

http://www.x.org/wiki/ReleaseSchedule wrote:
7.3 release August 29, 2007

So it should be released any minute.

How long does it usually take for the x.org-servers to make its way into portage?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um, you actually believe in release schedule dates? Do you believe in Santa Claus as well? ;)
Anyway, xorg-server-1.4 is in alpha, and xorg-x11-7.3 probably won't be out for another two months or so.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Um, you actually believe in release schedule dates? Do you believe in Santa Claus as well? ;)
Anyway, xorg-server-1.4 is in alpha, and xorg-x11-7.3 probably won't be out for another two months or so.

You're telling me Santa doesn't exist ? :(
Anyway, I did read it on phoronix too.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep, that's where I read it
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've piqued my interest, so looking around I found the following release tracker for 7.3.
Looks like we may have quite a wait.

As for how long it'll be between the final release and it's addition to portage, my guess would be a couple of days if there aren't any apparent issues, although the fact that 1.3.99 was never added doesn't look promising.

I was trying to find the release dates of the previous version, but the xorg "wiki" is frustrating as hell, if you find that information you could figure out how long it usually takes by comparing the release date to the dates in the xorg-server Changelog.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The xorg mailing list doesn't look like it, though:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-August/

EDIT: Well, there's this mail from a week ago
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-August/027485.html
that hints at a imminent release, for a given value of imminent.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xorg-server 1.4 uses a new ABI. So the upgrade will 'require' all input- and videodrivers to be rebuilt. This may affect the time needed on gentoo to stabilise.

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http://www.x.org/wiki/Server14Branch
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjAxNQ
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the binary drivers... ouch...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. :)

Normally an ABI bump only means you have to re-compile (not to re-code) so it shouldn't take too long.

Remember xorg-server 1.1.x (Xorg 7.1) which was also subject of an ABI change in video drivers? It took almost half a year before Nvidia released new binary drivers. But after waiting patiently they released drivers with better compositing support. Shortly after that, they implemented TFP into their drivers. Fortunately it was clear that they had not been sitting on their lazy asses all the time :)

Personally I can live with Xorg 7.2 for now. I'm waiting for proper output hotplugging (aka RANDR 1.2) in the NVIDIA drivers rather than input hotplugging (aka server 1.4) .
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today's OSnews reports:
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"Scheduled for release tomorrow is X.Org 7.3. Among the new features for X.Org 7.3 include the Xorg server 1.4, an application for adjusting a display's backlight, updated display drivers, and support for font catalog directories. Version 1.4 of the X.Org server contains such features as RandR 1.2 support, input hot-plugging, KDrive enhancements, Solaris DTrace support, and EXA improvements. In this article today, we will briefly go over some of the changes found in X.Org 7.3 and we will follow up with some benchmarks in early September."

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjAyNg wrote:
If you haven't noticed, the release of X.Org 7.3 has been delayed by at least a week. Eric Anholt, the X.Org 7.3 release manager, had pushed the X.Org 7.3 release back by at least a week due to show-stopping bugs. Eric has set the new X.Org 7.3 release date for September 5th. At present there are about seven bugs holding up this release. Additional information can be found on the X.Org mailing list.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a blog post stating that xorg x11 7.3 was going out today, so I assume the x11 herd will be busy packaging over the next few days.

To confirm, I just checked the Release Schedule on the X wiki, which has indeed been updated to September 5th release: http://www.x.org/wiki/ReleaseSchedule
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cadynum wrote:
Hopeless wrote:
Where'd you here that xorg-server 1.4 was released?

http://www.x.org/wiki/ReleaseSchedule wrote:
7.3 release August 29, 2007

So it should be released any minute.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You folks are so crazy. You crack me up! :P
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XORG 7.3 has been released (see the website www.x.org). Anyone know when it'll make its way into portage?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sirdilznik wrote:
You folks are so crazy. You crack me up! :P

Just a few days off, not that bad. :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_pearson_person wrote:
XORG 7.3 has been released (see the website www.x.org). Anyone know when it'll make its way into portage?
Site isn't responding.

No, scratch that, it just loaded, but it's crawling.

Thay've put up the tarball for xorg-server 1.4 here though.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You folks are so crazy. You crack me up! :P
:lol:

Personally I'm actually shocked there hasn't been any zero-day bump requests filed on bugzilla yet,
I wanted to see the devs scream at someone.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopeless wrote:
the_pearson_person wrote:
XORG 7.3 has been released (see the website www.x.org). Anyone know when it'll make its way into portage?
Site isn't responding.

No, scratch that, it just loaded, but it's crawling.

Thay've put up the tarball for xorg-server 1.4 here though.
sirdilznik wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You folks are so crazy. You crack me up! :P
:lol:

Personally I'm actually shocked there hasn't been any zero-day bump requests filed on bugzilla yet,
I wanted to see the devs scream at someone.

:twisted:


ROFL!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopeless wrote:
...snip...
Personally I'm actually shocked there hasn't been any zero-day bump requests filed on bugzilla yet,
I wanted to see the devs scream at someone.

:twisted:

Everytime you file a zero-day bump request god kills a kitten.
Please think of the kittens! :D
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sirdilznik wrote:
Everytime you file a zero-day bump request god kills a kitten.
Please think of the kittens! :D

I'm a gonna kill me some kittenz!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bump! :-P
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like xorg 7.3 is live.

http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.3

xorg-server 1.4:
http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/X11R7.3/src/xserver/
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_pearson_person wrote:
XORG 7.3 has been released (see the website www.x.org). Anyone know when it'll make its way into portage?



Don't try and steal my thunder :(
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm holding my breath waiting for this to appear in portage. Maybe I'll finally be able to use accelerated video again.
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