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IntergalacticWalrus
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Location: Montreal QC (Canada)
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After reading this thread I can't believe how many people don't seem to be aware of the existence of sudo. sudo is great. Everybody should worship sudo. sudo makes it clean and painless to stay secure. Everybody emerge sudo, damnit!
I want to edit my fstab?
| Code: | | sudo vim /etc/fstab |
I enter my password, then I'm off to edit fstab.
I want to update?
| Code: | | sudo emerge -u world |
Ditto. If it's been less than 5 minutes I edited my fstab, I won't even need to retype my password. |
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JanErik
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Location: Finland
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| Is there any good HowTo about managing a standard user on your home desktop, if not, maybe one should be written? |
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IntergalacticWalrus
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| Finnish wrote: | | I always run as root, because I haven't learned how to give a normal user the rights to do everything I can do as root. Like shutting down, mounting, inserting/removing kernel modules, removing anything except inside the home directory and so on. Also on Windoze I always run as Administrator. |
Shutting down: If you are running a login manager, anyone with local access to the machine can shutdown or reboot freely.
Mounting: Either add the 'user' option to the mountpoint you want user-mountable in your fstab, or switch it to supermount if you have it in your kernel.
Inserting/removing kernel modules: hotplug should suffice for most real-time kernel loading.
As for Windows, I must admit I run as Administrator too, but that's mostyle because
1. Windows lacks a decent "sudo" solution.
2. I mostly run Windows for games and running games as admin on Windows is generally recommended (as stupid as it may sound for a Unix user like me). |
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Anti
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Joined: 18 Apr 2002
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heh, I've been running as root for years. Until a few months ago. Got tired listening to people telling me I shouldn't. So now I'm a good user, not running root all the rime. Funny enough, I never made a mistake while running root, but after a week being a normal user, I su'd to root and deleted a homedir. Really nice.
You'll do brainfarts even if you're usually running as a normal user and then doing su.
And even if you have a console dedicated to running the root session, you could just as easily become confused/tired/whatever and pull a crapper in that window and destroy everything.
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Wilhelm
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Joined: 27 May 2003
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Doesn't it also depend on what you are doing on your box.
Me for instance i run a domain on my box and log in under root mostly on console and as a user under X (where i browse for lazy HOWTO's). From X i su into terminals.
If i would be using it for day-to-day use i wouldn't have run root all the time. For now i am cause i do a lot of config-diving and modifying ;P
Also isn't running as root for day-to-day jobs a sign of weakness that you aren't able to configure your machine properly?? |
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scap1784
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When i boot my mahing i open vt1 as root and open everything else as a normall user. This way if i need to do something as root i can do it there. If i am in X i just use su. i am also i college student and people are over all the time. If i am login as root they can hop on my puter and do anything they want  |
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