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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 11:59 pm    Post subject: Dual Booting with XP Reply with quote

I seem to be having problems getting XP to dual boot with gentoo. I have followed the installation instructions for grub and I am still having problems. On a prior install of gentoo, things worked just fine, but now I keep getting the message of problems with hal.dll. Even though I can't get XP to load with grub I can get it load using Acronis OS selector, so it is possible. Here is my grub.conf
Code:
default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd1,1)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo Linux
root(hd1,1)
kernel (hd1,1)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hdg4


title=Windows XP
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot


I have two hard drives /dev/hde and /dev/hdg. XP is installed on the only partittion on hde and gentoo (boot) is installed on the second partition of hdg. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried "chainloader (hd0,0)+1" instead of "chainloader +1" ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to try out Lilo, nothing flashy, just a workhorse doing its job!

anyway, how interesting can it be to boot a PC :)

*how to configure Lilo is described in the installation guide on this site*
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:31 am    Post subject: Dual Booting with XP Reply with quote

Yes I did try (hd0,0)+chainloader first, didn't work. I tried to use Lilo at first, but I didn't have any luck with it. During bootup I got L_ and I couldn't get any further than that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:13 am    Post subject: Re: Dual Booting with XP Reply with quote

BlueRoo wrote:
I seem to be having problems getting XP to dual boot with gentoo. I have followed the installation instructions for grub and I am still having problems. On a prior install of gentoo, things worked just fine, but now I keep getting the message of problems with hal.dll. Even though I can't get XP to load with grub I can get it load using Acronis OS selector, so it is possible. Here is my grub.conf
Code:
default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd1,1)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo Linux
root(hd1,1)
kernel (hd1,1)/boot/bzImage root=/dev/hdg4


title=Windows XP
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot


I have two hard drives /dev/hde and /dev/hdg. XP is installed on the only partittion on hde and gentoo (boot) is installed on the second partition of hdg. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.


What's giving you the message about "hal.dll"? I presume windows?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm installing gentoo on a friends machine and keep getting this exact same error. The hal.dll thing sounds like something windows is looking for. I can't understand it. Any more ideas?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The hal.dll thing sounds like something windows is looking for. I can't understand it.

I think I've run across this before. Try copying the hal.dll file from the Windows install CD.

This is one of the bad things that happen when you let lilo or grub install on the MBR of the first disk.

The best solution is to let the Windows bootloader start grub or lilo.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
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I think I've run across this before. Try copying the hal.dll file from the Windows install CD.

on my WindowsXP cdrom is no hal.dll .... anyway i tried to copy from another WindowsXP machine my friend is running... with no success.. same error, what to do to get rid of this error message ??
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haggi wrote:
hi,
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I think I've run across this before. Try copying the hal.dll file from the Windows install CD.

on my WindowsXP cdrom is no hal.dll .... anyway i tried to copy from another WindowsXP machine my friend is running... with no success.. same error, what to do to get rid of this error message ??


In the end we reinstalled windows after mounting his drives in gentoo and backing everything up. then reinstalling grub as windows overwrote the MBR. Sorry I don't have better news, but just thought I'd let you know. We put quite a bit of effort in to fixing it, but got nowhere. Your best bet is probably to ask on a forum of windows experts, as it is a windows problem.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe you try to boot windows with the install-cd into recovery mode and then try to fix the mbr

this always worked fine when there was a problem with my old SuSE and winME
... oh, yes, I had to reinstall LILO after that and yes it worked with winME, with XP there was no problem yet, so I didn't try

I'm not realy shure anymore but I think I installed GRUB on (hd0) and XP is on (hd0,0) and everything is working fine so far :D
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx, that are bad news for me, because i backed up my complety configured WindowsXP before in a Norton Ghost image, so that i do not have to completly re-install it....

I'll then have to find some Windows experts, and let you know if i found a solution.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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maybe you try to boot windows with the install-cd into recovery mode and then try to fix the mbr

how do i do this in recovery mode ?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

on winME it was a simple "fdisk /mbr" or something like this but I think this has been changed with XP.

... but it shouldn't be too hard finding some info about this -> good luck :wink:

EDIT:
found this topic
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=75329
maybe it'll help you a bit


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In windows XP you have to use the installation CD to go into the recovery console than you can apply the "fixmbr" command to fix your MBR and you should be able to boot into Windows XP again.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ch1lly wrote:
In windows XP you have to use the installation CD to go into the recovery console than you can apply the "fixmbr" command to fix your MBR and you should be able to boot into Windows XP again.


I hope this works for you. It didn't for us.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends. A lot of people on these forums have been installing Grub and Lilo on the boot sector of the harddrive thinking that they were installing in the MBR. This may be a little late for you, but the commands in Windows for fixing misinstalled boot loaders are fixmbr for loaders in the MBR and fixboot for loaders in the bootsector.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it just me (don't answer), or is all this boot stuff incredibly rediculously over-complicated? I'm not a big believer in gui's, but if there's ever a problem that needed one, this is it.

Anyway, I boot my gentoo from a floppy. My bzImage is on the hard drive. I just put the bootloader (I hate all this boot lingo; did I get that correct?) on the floppy.

floppy in = gentoo
floppy out = winxp

Just an idea. I don't understand why more people don't do this. I've torn my hair out trying to get dual (and triple) boots to work in the past and then there's the problem of having MS stomp whatever you may have had on the MBR of hda. Why bother?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, I lived in Starkville for a year. Dude, you gotta get outa there.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've lived here for 6 years... and you are right. About the boot loaders, they are only complicated because they are capable of being configured. Since you can put Linux anywhere (or any opsys for that matter), there are several little switches and options you have to set. Unlike Windows, which goes on the first drive on the first partition always every time.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you tried searching on google?
here's one.
and here's to download hal.dll
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, the problem is - win xp doesn't like any bootloaders like grub oder lilo.
just try this:

copy your bootblock (first 512byte from yout bootdisk) using dd to an file (!!!) on the disk, win xp is installed - the easiest way is to copy it in the root directroy from win.
when edit the boot.ini from win xp (c:\boot.ini).
sorry, but the hole instruction i can't remember exactly - but ask google ;)

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