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Indeed locate is on a cron job, daily if you don't change it. I had installed x11-drm Monday so
it was in there.
I will I have a look at your suggestion but I think I have hit a bug that is ppc (I am trying this
on an iMac G4) specific. From what I read I have an unresolved dependency on a libgcc symbol
(I am not on my mac right now so I cannot tell you the exact one). It is a known gcc bug on ppc,
in that this function, which compare 2 64 bit integer on arch that can't do it natively, shouldn't be
used in most case. This is supposed to be fixed in gcc-4.2+
I am using gcc-4.2.2 so it is very annoying. |
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dracula1985
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| JohnY wrote: | Sure.
First I used find:
| Code: | | find // -name dro.ko -print |
because it finds the file in real time, I think locate depends on a database updated by a cron job.
In my case there was one drm.lo here: '/lib/modules/2.6.23-gentoo/kernel/drivers/char/drm/' (the older one) and one drm.ko here: '/lib/modules/2.6.23-gentoo/x11-drm/' (the one built from the nouveau overlay ). I renamed the older one and copied the newer one to the older one's location. Then rmmod drm.ko and modprobe drm.ko and restart X.
Does that help?
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It seems that you have drm built-in into the kernel, when it's reccomended that you don't have to build it.
I don't build it at all, I use only drm from nouveau overlay, and I never had of these problems.
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JohnY
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Drac,
drm was built in originally, but I took it out, rebuilt and reinstalled modules. I did go back and forth between drm versions a few times, maybe that caused it.... I have seen other distros with a similar problem.
I'm pleased that both nouveau and radeonhd are both providing useable 2d at this early stage.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| fb wrote: | Indeed locate is on a cron job, daily if you don't change it. I had installed x11-drm Monday so
it was in there.
I will I have a look at your suggestion but I think I have hit a bug that is ppc (I am trying this
on an iMac G4) specific. From what I read I have an unresolved dependency on a libgcc symbol
(I am not on my mac right now so I cannot tell you the exact one). It is a known gcc bug on ppc,
in that this function, which compare 2 64 bit integer on arch that can't do it natively, shouldn't be
used in most case. This is supposed to be fixed in gcc-4.2+
I am using gcc-4.2.2 so it is very annoying. |
I'm using gcc 4.2.2 as well (~x86) .... can't think of anything else that might help at the moment. I'm still to much of a newbie with git to do it all by hand. Studying though...
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fb
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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I have several messages in dmesg that indicate problems but
what I am worried about is this one: __ucmpdi2
Here is the bug on freedesktop:http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10547
It should be solved but apparently isn't.
Nothing you can really do about it. |
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dracula1985
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Someone has news about nouveau developement?
It's about 1 or 2 weeks that, when I start glxgears, I have this output:
nouveau DRI driver expected DDX version 1-1.2.x but got version 0.0.10
libGL warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs.
libGL warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs.
libGL error: InitDriver failed
libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
Using media-libs/mesa-7.0.2 in place of media-libs/mesa-9999 (from nouveau overlay) I haven't this output, but the fps it's the same.
With a GeForce Go 7300 my glxgears gives around 300 fps, so I undestand nouveau drivers aren't using hardware acceleration...
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Genewb
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| dracula1985 wrote: | Someone has news about nouveau developement?
It's about 1 or 2 weeks that, when I start glxgears, I have this output:
nouveau DRI driver expected DDX version 1-1.2.x but got version 0.0.10
libGL warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs.
libGL warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs.
libGL error: InitDriver failed
libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
Using media-libs/mesa-7.0.2 in place of media-libs/mesa-9999 (from nouveau overlay) I haven't this output, but the fps it's the same.
With a GeForce Go 7300 my glxgears gives around 300 fps, so I undestand nouveau drivers aren't using hardware acceleration... |
3D acceleration is a long way off, although it is being worked on. nouveau publishes status reports every ... 2/3 of a month-ish. They can be found on the nouveau wiki, the latest was published yesterday.
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rvalles
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject: gallium3d |
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Any insight into building it with gallium3d and xrandr12 support?
It should be good enough for openarena on nv4x like mine... |
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BlackEdder
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| Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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xrandr12 support is already in there, but for now you need to separately enable it in xorg.conf
| Code: | Section "Device"
Identifier "nouveau0"
Driver "nouveau"
Option "Randr12" "true"
EndSection |
About the unkown symbols problem, I needed to build agpgart as a module for the kernel, even though I have a pci-express card. Ideally the x11-drm-9999 ebuild should check your kernel config for this option. |
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xhub
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For an Gallium Howto you have to look at this : http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/GalliumHowto
But be careful : this is fully unsupported by developers.
Don't ask them and don't report bugs. |
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rvalles
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| We need to get gallium3d as an option into eselect opengl, at some point. |
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rvalles
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| Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:44 pm Post subject: nouveau, gallium3d and nv4x |
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Been using nouveau + gallium3d for some time with pretty good results; of course, that's because I have a nv4x.
It'd be very convenient for us nv4x owners to have gallium3d on the overlay, together with a "do not complain or file bugs if gallium3d enabled" warning |
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depontius
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I just moved to layman yesterday, planning to pick up the nouveau overlay as the site suggests. But the nouveau overlay does not show up on "layman -L". Can anyone make any suggestions?
Are there any problems with switching back and forth between nouveau and nvidia? I presume I'll have to have 2 separate kernels, or actually get the module blacklisting to work, which I haven't been able to, yet. Suggestions welcome here, too.
I'm having problems with nvidia getting gart errors (both agpgart and nvgart) and dropping back to PCI, for a considerable slowdown. I don't need 3D, and nouveau sounds like an interesting option.
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fb
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| depontius wrote: | | I just moved to layman yesterday, planning to pick up the nouveau overlay as the site suggests. But the nouveau overlay does not show up on "layman -L". Can anyone make any suggestions? |
Strange, it indeed doesn't show up. There is a way to add an overlay that is not in the list
I just cannot remember from the top of my head. Searching this section of the forum should
help.
| depontius wrote: | | Are there any problems with switching back and forth between nouveau and nvidia? I presume I'll have to have 2 separate kernels, or actually get the module blacklisting to work, which I haven't been able to, yet. Suggestions welcome here, too. |
No need for 2 kernels you just have 2 different modules that you can load. I just change what's
in my /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel2.6 and reboot. Unless thing are different on x86 where you can use nvidia
of course. If nouveau doesn't work you just won't have any kind of
hardware acceleration but you can shutdown X manually load nv (or try to load nouveau and see what
error messages you get) and start X again.
For what it's worth I finally got a patch for my problems on ppc and I am using nouveau without trouble since the
beginning of the week, not sure there are any improvements in speed for me so far. |
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Tom_
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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What about Gallium3d ? Does anyone here use it ?
Why isn't this overlay merged into the x11-overlay? I think it would be easier to use the same ebuilds (Mesa, x11-drm, libdrm for instance) instead of having them in two overlays, wouldn't it ?
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Tom_
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| Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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I can compile the last Mesa ebuild from the Nouveau overlay (mesa-9999-r1) :
| Code: | ../common/utils.o ../common/texmem.o ../common/vblank.o ../common/dri_util.o ../common/xmlconfig.o ../common/drirenderbuffer.o nouveau_bufferobj.o nouveau_card.o nouveau_context.o nouveau_driver.o nouveau_fbo.o nouveau_fifo.o nouveau_lock.o nouveau_mem.o nouveau_object.o nouveau_screen.o nouveau_span.o nouveau_state.o nouveau_state_cache.o nouveau_shader.o nouveau_shader_0.o nouveau_shader_1.o nouveau_shader_2.o nouveau_tex.o nouveau_swtcl.o nouveau_sync.o nouveau_query.o nv04_state.o nv04_swtcl.o nv10_state.o nv10_swtcl.o nv20_state.o nv20_vertprog.o nv30_state.o nv30_fragprog.o nv30_vertprog.o nv40_fragprog.o nv40_vertprog.o nv50_state.o ../../../../../src/mesa/libmesa.a -lm -lpthread -lexpat -ldl `pkg-config --libs libdrm`
mklib: Making Linux shared library: nouveau_dri.so
nouveau_screen.o:(.data.rel+0x0): multiple definition of `__driDriverExtensions'
../common/dri_util.o:(.data.rel+0x0): first defined here
collect2: ld a retourné 1 code d'état d'exécution
../../../../../bin/minstall nouveau_dri.so ../../../../../lib64
Unknown type of argument: nouveau_dri.so
make[6]: *** [../../../../../lib64/nouveau_dri.so] Erreur 1
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While compiling it, i get a few warnings like that :
| Code: | | makedepend: warning: ../common/utils.c (reading /usr/include/sys/types.h, line 147): cannot find include file "stddef.h" |
Is that important ?
Nevertheless, the Nouveau driver works quite well!  Thank you!!
Thank you in advance. |
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ashtophet
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hello.
Could PLEASE someone try to run two Xorg sessions[1] and report if it's working?
Shameless bump to https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-694594.html
Thank you very much in advance.
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[1] Just start one user as usual. Then if you have another user toggle startx -- :1 (if you don't have another user, use root). |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm sorry to ask it again but i would like to know if any of you is able to compile Mesa with Gallium3D ? |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, I successfully compiled Mesa with Gallium3D. But I didn't try it yet. The thing is though, only if you have nv4x hardware some things might work. That's it. It's way too early to be using it and the developers won't accept any bug reports, because they know not much works. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Oki thank you.
Yeah i know it's very unstable but anyway i wanted to try it.  And yes i have an nv4x card.
Actually it appears that this branch of Gallium requires xorg-server-1.4 and not a prerelease of xorg-server-1.5. So i'm going to try another branch (gallium-0.1-dri2) ...  |
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depontius
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Still can't find nouveau overlay. I've dropped this for a while, and just thought to check it out, again. When I do "layman -L", nouveau doesn't show up, it skips straight from "nx" to "perl-experimental". At the moment, I'm also looking at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/overlays/layman-global.txt and just did a "layman -f", and still don't see nouveau in my list of overlays.
Now that I look a little harder, in layman-global.txt, nouveau is buried in the middle of the vdr overlays - out of alphabetical order. If it's in the "wrong place" is that keeping me from seeing it in "layman -L"? Once others have added the overlay, they have the particulars and can keep up-to-date, but I can't even add it because of the sequence problem?
I just did a more detailed analysis of layman-global.txt and the output of "layman -L", see that there are 138 items in the former, but only 67 in the latter. I'm missing a whole pile of overlays, not just nouveau. I've got the detail list available on request, but it is kind of long.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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depontius, use layman -k, or simply disable checks in /etc/layman/layman.cfg
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depontius
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| gimpel wrote: | | depontius, use layman -k, or simply disable checks in /etc/layman/layman.cfg |
That did it, thanks. With "layman -k -L" nouveau showed up, and I've been able to add it. But then just a few seconds ago the boss walked in the door, and any vestige of free time I might have had disappeared. Since my job doesn't really need 3D, and my 2D seems a bit sluggish, I was hoping to speed that up. I've heard that nouveau is actually the best option for 2D performance, now.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:08 am Post subject: |
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Can anyone else access the nouveau overlay's svn server? It keeps asking me for a password. =\
A lot of overlays seem to be doing that lately... wtf? |
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asturm
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm, I don't have any problems accessing the overlay. I do have however some problems getting the nouveau-driver to work.
Is there any howto?
Xorg.0.log says: [dri] failed to open the DRM |
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