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pentium4borg n00b
Joined: 29 Aug 2006 Posts: 47
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: What's the best wireless card to get? |
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I did a quick search for this and didn't find anything, sorry if this has been posted before. (If so, can someone link me?)
I have been through a Broadcom wireless chipset on my laptop, and I'm currently using an Atheros PCMCIA card (using madwifi-ng). It works well, except on my university wireless (which I believe uses Cisco APs) -- the card will deassociate and reassociate with NM every few minutes. There's no predictable pattern. Once in a great while, my machine will hard lock, but only when associated to the university wireless (neither problem appears on any other network, including my own which is on a machine running hostapd).
Anyways, my main question --> What wireless chipset do you recommend I buy? I hear Intel works well, but I really don't like the idea of a binary daemon running all the time. I like my Atheros-based card, but the problems above prevent it from being practical. Ideally, is there a chipset with no binary daemon and no microcode to load? If not, what's my best alternative?
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Januszzz Guru
Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 367 Location: Opole, Poland
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Only Zydas.
Bus 007 Device 004: ID 0ace:1215 ZyDAS, some sheet: http://www.bluetake.com/Manuals/bw100/8011bg%20USB%20adapter.pdf
My Zydas has BW100 sign, I guess its a model name.
While I'm responsible for radius authenticated networks at my university, I tried Intel 3945, Intel 4965, some Atheros chips (which take second place) and Broadcom.
Zydas wins in every category: link quality is always better, the card is most stable, the fastest (slightly of course). Its has full kernel support (zd1211rw module) and works with any freak wpa_supplicant.conf config. Comparing Intel to Zydas, Intel had very poor drivers (esp. first ipw3945) and now it has only littler poor drivers for both 3945 and 4965 (iwlwifi).
(If anyone has different opinion about intel, I can give a shell access to my notebook and please stay on my Freeradius network longer than one Gentoo iso download no can do, see my post at https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-578386-highlight-.html
I use Linksys and Cisco 1242 APs usually.
Find it and buy it. I got one at Sun Microsystems meeting, so now I like them too
EDIT:
Oh, btw, it also needs firmware (included in Portage) I really don't know a card which don't use it.
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idProduct 0x1215
bcdDevice 48.10
iManufacturer 16 ZyDAS
iProduct 32 USB2.0 WLAN
iSerial 0
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Configuration Descriptor:
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bDescriptorType 2
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bmAttributes 0x80
MaxPower 500mA
Interface Descriptor:
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Endpoint Descriptor:
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Endpoint Descriptor:
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Endpoint Descriptor:
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bDeviceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
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richard.scott Veteran
Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 1497 Location: Oxfordshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: |
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I have a GIGABYTE GN-WP01GT pci card working very well with the madwifi-ng drivers and hostapd.
It also supports WPA2 and works as an AP perfectly! |
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d2_racing Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 13047 Location: Ste-Foy,Canada
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:22 am Post subject: |
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I use a IPW3945 and everything is perfect. |
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iarwain Apprentice
Joined: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 253
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:53 am Post subject: |
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d2_racing wrote: | I use a IPW3945 and everything is perfect. |
I also have it and it works fine. But not everything is perfect for my needs. That is, it doesn't support bridge mode. This is useful for virtualization. |
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Dagger Retired Dev
Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 765 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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I've been using Intel4956 for over 6 months now, and I really can't complain. The driver was terrible few months ago, but right now it's quite stable and working well. _________________ 95% of all computer errors occur between chair and keyboard (TM)
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d2_racing Bodhisattva
Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 13047 Location: Ste-Foy,Canada
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Dagger wrote: | I've been using Intel4956 for over 6 months now, and I really can't complain. The driver was terrible few months ago, but right now it's quite stable and working well. |
Yeah, you are using the iwlwifi driver, so it's normal that you had a little trouble in the past |
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sonaatti n00b
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 39
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm also using Intel4965 and this is yet the best wireless experience I've had, no complaints. |
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Simba7 l33t
Joined: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 708 Location: Billings, MT, USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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I've used Atheros AR5212 and a Linksys WMP54G (Ralink RT2500) cards and they both run rather decent with an antenna upgrade. |
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irasnyd Apprentice
Joined: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 286 Location: Placentia, CA
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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I've been using the built-in ipw3945 on my laptop, and I haven't had any recent problems. The ipw3945 driver (the old one) gave me lots of headaches. The binary daemon just didn't work that well. I'm using the iwlwifi driver now, and I haven't had any problems related to stability or the like.
I did have a problem with the ipw3945 card connecting to a really old Linksys 802.11b-only access point. It would drop the connection constantly. I ended up getting a usb device that worked only with ndiswapper (while trying to find a zydas...). It turns out that Intel has some power saving stuff that all AP's should support, but a few really old ones don't. That AP was the only one I've ever encountered the problem with.
At my school, we only have Cisco AP's. I've never had a problem connecting or staying connected for long periods of time.
I hear zydas makes really good, cheap usb devices, but good luck finding one. I tried, and ended up with a Realtek device that only worked with ndiswrapper, and really sucked. |
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Januszzz Guru
Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 367 Location: Opole, Poland
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: yeah, sure... |
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Quote: | I use a IPW3945 and everything is perfect. |
Have you ever tried radius authenticated with TLS or TTLS? If yes, please post your config and exact driver version, because I just cannot. Especially with TLS.
Quote: | I've been using Intel4956 for over 6 months now, and I really can't complain. The driver was terrible few months ago, but right now it's quite stable and working well.
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Yeah... the same question about radius and tls to you... iwlwifi is not usable at all with my config, while zydas and atheros does right things. Anyway, they have something really b0rked, as options passed to these drivers by wpa_supplicant are just screwed in those drivers... short story long... etc.
I will discourage every intel wifi until they deliver at least working drivers, I do not expect them be good, I want them only working! Intel is like ati, ati works, but sometimes, for somebody, and sometime. It simply doesn't work.
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