Compiz Fusion 0.6.0 is OUT!!!

reksav · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:46 pm Post subject:

im having the same decoration problems in gnome, compiz is fine but no decorations... i used beryl for the past ummm i dunno long time and loved it, anyway to get it back since this c-f thing doesnt seem to work for me?

platojones · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:15 am Post subject:

Well, this is bizarre, but I kept tinkering with the compiz-start script and made a change that should not have made any difference whatsoever and then cranked it up, and I now have the full enchilada...beautiful and I'm really mystified. I think it may be that I started the decorator (emerald) before starting compiz, but I'm sure I tried that earlier and it didn't work then. I've been playing with it trying to get it configured just like my beryl set up and have it about 90% where I had beryl. I've noticed it's much faster than beryl and (on my system at least) uses a lot less CPU with almost the identical setup (I've got a lot of stuff maxed). So, I'm happy. In the hopes that this may help somebody, I'll post my compiz-start, though as I said, I have no idea why it worked any different that what I was doing earlier. This is strictly for a KDE setup, so if you use gnome, who knows...

Havin_it · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject:

FWIW, I solved my compiz segfault issue. I discovered a ~/.compiz directory (didn't even know it was there) containing a bunch of old compiz-extra plugins. I think compiz was trying to load these, because as soon as I deleted the directory compiz worked fine.

I did a homebrew install of compiz-extras-0.5.0.2 which might be why these were left on my system. But if you have this dir, it might be worth deleting or moving it to see if you fare better.

frank1980 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 103

I just want to say: compiz-fusion drivers me crazzy, I love beryl
Why portage lets compiz-fusion upgrade from beryl? It's unbelievable :?:

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pierce · n00b Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 12 Location: Portland

Trust fusion-icon. It is magical. It will automatically detect everything it needs, and will run everything it needs to run. Emerald still is leaky as hell, but I am fine with using the GTK decorator until the new emerald is released. In theory, all you should need to do is add fusion-icon to the list of startup apps in your regular wm, and everything else is magically done for you.

Unfortunately, fusion-icon is still not in portage.
Overlays for critical systems is a sin.

The "git" command I talked about in page three might help grab fusion-icon code if you don't know where to get it.

platojones · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:23 pm Post subject:

hunky · l33t Joined: 19 Nov 2003 Posts: 910 Location: Alaska

I had a great beryl system running until portage didn't like it anymore. I struggled trying to get portage's compiz-fusion going over a period of maybe a week or so. Last night I finally gave up and did what Pierce said to do - download fusion-icon. Back to things working again - except I can't yet figure out why I can't switch cube faces (desktops) with my mouse scroll button - but more research is needed there by me.

Havin_it · Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:53 am Post subject:

Uh... okay, well this is rather embarrassing. I swear this is not a joke, but...

I've lost the use of the letter "d". I was mucking around with keybindings in ccsm, and at some point I did something and it disappeared. Now I can't type it anywhere.

(In case you're wondering, I copied the letter from the text on this webpage and am pasting it into my message here as I write.)

Uppercase "D" works okay, so I assume I somehow set "d" as a keybinding for something or other which is disabled, as it doesn't seem to do anything when I press it.

Reluctantly I went to Preferences and Restore Global Defaults, but this hasn't fixed it.

What I was actually doing before was trying to set Alt+Tab and Alt+Shift+Tab as shortcuts for the Shift Switcher. To achieve this I had to turn off the Desktop Integration for KDE, because otherwise these shortcuts were locked to the normal switcher plugin. So I was mucking around with these fields both before and after I turned it off. But I've looked back over these and the other shortcuts I was tweaking, and none of them show "d".

HAYLP! Writing this post was murder, I can't remain sane much longer doing this pasting nonsense! (Thank heaven it wasn't "t", that's all I can say...)

EDIT: never mind, I somehow got it back as compiz seemed to restart when I reopened ccsm. Let this be a lesson though: be careful when setting keybindings!

Oh, and one last thing:

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platojones · Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:56 am Post subject:

hunky · l33t Joined: 19 Nov 2003 Posts: 910 Location: Alaska

many thanks, platojones!

Theimon · Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:59 am Post subject:

frank1980 · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 103

I del the fusion and downgrade the portage to Nov 2, install beryl back

:twisted:

BTW: today's portage sounds fix the problem that install compiz-fusion by upgrading from beryl. and I move the necessary ebuilds to my overlay. all done!

Simius · Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject:

Is there a way to link the desktop cube up to the Gnome workspace switcher applet? It'd be real nice, as it was automatic in Beryl... and I don't need 16 workspaces, only 4, but I'd like to have a quick-n-easy way of navigating them.
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Simius · Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:33 am Post subject: Compiz looks pretty unfinished

Well, well... I've been using Compiz-fusion for some days now, and I'd say I didn't find it lacking in stability compared to Beryl, but it still has the feel of an alpha software. While Beryl came with usable default settings, as a wm should, Compiz-fusion's defaults were either non-existent or just plain unusable.
Also, there are some things I can't seem to get Compiz to do, no matter how I try. In Beryl, I could rotate the Desktop cube by just scrolling the mouse's scrollwheel over the desktop. Compiz refuses to do this - in fact Compiz refuses to use lots of mouse events, and I have to experiment whether Button2, <Alt>Button2, or only <Control><Alt>Button2 will work. As a rule of thumb, simple and user-friendly mouse events don't work, while complicated events - where I'm having all hands full with 5 modifier keys and the mouse - do work.
Beryl linked the Desktop cube to the Gnome desktop switcher applet. Compiz doesn't.
And there are conflicting plug-ins... For example if Fade to Desktop is enabled, Rotate Desktop Cube doesn't work.

To top all this off, documentation is virtually non-existent...
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platojones · Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject:

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Azzie · n00b Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1

To those who do not get decorations around their windows in KDE:

Try to edit /usr/bin/compiz-start and replace "gconf" with "ccp" in the last line. This means changing the configuration backend, worked for me.

You may also need to add "kde-window-decorator --replace" in ccsm in "Windows decorations" settings, but this will be only necessary if your kde-window-decorator is not started by the /usr/bin/compiz-start script for some reason.

Havin_it · Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject:

Here's a problem I've been having intermittently since earlier versions of compiz, and seems to happen constantly with the new version. I think someone already mentioned it in this or another thread...

On KDE startup most/all of the icons in the Kicker appear in tiny windows littered about the screen, rather than in the system tray. By closing and restarting them they usually go into the tray, or if I logout and back into KDE they usually dock normally, but iit's a nuisance having to do this every time I boot.

I use a modified version of compiz-start just like most folks (just changing the commands for compiz and still using kde-window-decorator instead of emerald), and have it set as my KDEWM. The only difference is the script has a loop at the end that restarts compiz and/or kwd when they crash (compiz certainly always crashes a few seconds after startup).

Any ideas about this?

Mondo1287 · n00b Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 16