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wilsontc
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hello guys, once again!
i have two questions for you gurus today 
firstly, what is a cron? the install guide wants me to pick a cron package, but it doesn't go into more detail  what does a cron do, and is there much difference between the various packages?
secondly, does anyone know how to disconnect from bpalogin? it doesn't have a disconnect button/menu/command, and it is very annoying having to reset the cable modem and wait for stuff to work.
any help with either of these 2 problems is most appreciated
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cron is basically a task scheduler allowing jobs to be run automatically at certain times or time intervals. I just went for the one the install guide said was best or popular or something...vcron, works great for me.
No idea about bpalogin, sorry.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2003 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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http://bpalogin.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=index
I'm in UK but I guess you're in Aussie?? Telstra?? I think the SW has no "disconnect" button - but you could "kill" the process from a linux shell/console window.
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wilsontc
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ah...thankyou! but how would i do that? something about pid?
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 7:29 am Post subject: |
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i have another problem too.
i have finished compiling my kernel, and i have set up the rest of gentoo, but how do i mount my os9 partition? when i follow the instructions (ie mkdir /mnt/mac, mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/mac) it says "you must specify the file system type. so i repeated the instruction with "mount -t hsf /dev/hda6 /mnt/mac" but it couldn't mount! help! doesn't the livecd kernel have hsf support compilied in? if so, can i add a module, or how else can i put my kernels on my mac partition?
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Are you sure that hsf is the correct filesystem. I am not familiar with macs, but i did a google search and it seems to mostly concern PCI modems and such.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 9:00 am Post subject: |
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ah yes! you are correct snipingkills it should have been HFS that i should have typed! so now i can mount my mac partition, but "Where have all my files gone?" can i just copy the kernels onto the root dir, or do i need to put them someplace else? the install guide seemed to say just dump 'em there, but i want to make sure...
also, how do i kill a process? i assume it is with the 'kill' command, but how do i find out the process number? something about a PID?
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keratos68
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 9:18 am Post subject: |
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| Code: | | ps | awk '/konqueror/ { print $1 }' | xargs kill -15 |
"ps" = will list processes. If your processes is background , you may wish to use "ps -aef" to list all processes. Have a play.
"awk" = will find processes with "konqueror" of course this is an example , replace konqueror with the process name you wish to kill, dont know what this is as I dont have the program you're trying to kill!
"xargs" = will tag the output of the last command (awk) to a kill -15 command. Kill -9 is stronger if kill -15 doesnt work, but try -15 first as its more graceful degredation.
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puggy
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 10:30 am Post subject: |
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If you have a different problem to your initial post its best to start a new thread.
What do you mean copy the kernels to the root dir? Are these the kernels you want to boot from. You have to move them to the /boot directory (Once mounted if on a seperate partition) just like the install guide says.
I know nothing about mac filesystems. But how old is the mac? Because theres also HPFS support in the kernel relating to Mac's...
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| keratos68 wrote: | | Code: | | ps | awk '/konqueror/ { print $1 }' | xargs kill -15 |
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Wow. I'm sorry but that seem very uneffective. I usually just do:
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# killall -SIG progname
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In your case
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# killall -9 bpalogin
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# killall -KILL bpalogin
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Beware that this is the dirty way of killing a program. Normally when a program is told to shut down it receives a SIGTERM. So the nice way is:
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# killall -15 bpalogin
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# killall -TERM bpalogin
or just (which I use)
# killall bpalogin
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"ps" = will list processes. If your processes is background , you may wish to use "ps -aef" to list all processes. Have a play.
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I use "ps aux" 
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"awk" = will find processes with "konqueror" of course this is an example , replace konqueror with the process name you wish to kill, dont know what this is as I dont have the program you're trying to kill!
"xargs" = will tag the output of the last command (awk) to a kill -15 command. Kill -9 is stronger if kill -15 doesnt work, but try -15 first as its more graceful degredation. |
Uhmm xargs a usefull tool.
So puggy you are installing on an oldworld mac? Then you have to dump the kernel (vmlinux) onto the root of the system folder. Cant remember what it is called, but basically you just move the image bootx uses and copy the new image there. You can use "find /mnt/mac -name vmlinux" to find the old image.
If you have a newworld mac you dont have to put it on your mac drive you just have to do "cp vmlinux System.map /boot" as the manual says.
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keratos68
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| barran wrote: | | keratos68 wrote: | | Code: | | ps | awk '/konqueror/ { print $1 }' | xargs kill -15 |
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Wow. I'm sorry but that seem very uneffective. I usually just do:
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# killall -SIG progname
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In your case
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# killall -9 bpalogin
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# killall -KILL bpalogin
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Beware that this is the dirty way of killing a program. Normally when a program is told to shut down it receives a SIGTERM. So the nice way is:
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# killall -15 bpalogin
or
# killall -TERM bpalogin
or just (which I use)
# killall bpalogin
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... YES , but here in Blackpool,UK, we have a lovely sunny day, and I'm in he conservatory, typing away, being rather oppulent with my answers....I kinda gave the answer above ... well ... because "I CAN!" But your post barran above is factually correct albeit non-superfluous 
Of course, kill -SIG <progname> requires the process name to be known, this may not be the case here, it may be though so your post would suffice. The awk /../ above facilitates wildcard searches like awk '/*bpa*/ { print $1 }' to search for anything with "bpa" in the name....
In any event , I think we have offered a variety of solutions, the orginator can elect what suits the situation!!
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puggy
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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So puggy you are installing on an oldworld mac? |
Not me. wilsontc
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keratos68
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| keratos68 wrote: | | Of course, kill -SIG <progname> requires the process name to be known, this may not be the case here, it may be though so your post would suffice. The awk /../ above facilitates wildcard searches like awk '/*bpa*/ { print $1 }' to search for anything with "bpa" in the name.... |
HoHo .... awk '/.*bpa*/ { print .... of course!
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| keratos68 wrote: |
... YES , but here in Blackpool,UK, we have a lovely sunny day, and I'm in he conservatory, typing away, being rather oppulent with my answers....I kinda gave the answer above ... well ... because "I CAN!" But your post barran above is factually correct albeit non-superfluous
Of course, kill -SIG <progname> requires the process
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killall but nevermind...
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name to be known, this may not be the case here, it may be though so your post would suffice. The awk /../ above facilitates wildcard searches like awk '/*bpa*/ { print $1 }' to search for anything with "bpa" in the name....
In any event , I think we have offered a variety of solutions, the orginator can elect what suits the situation!! |
Sorry didnt want to offend you. I just thought it was a complicated way of doing something simple... |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2003 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| puggy wrote: | | barran wrote: |
So puggy you are installing on an oldworld mac? |
Not me. wilsontc
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Sorry 'bout that. Of cause I meant wilsontc... DOH! |
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wilsontc
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 8:31 am Post subject: |
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yeah, i am installing on an oldworld mac (thus HFS).
but now i have another problem  - it says "No space left on device!"
this is clearly incorrect - i have like 30 mb and the kernel is only 1.x mb!!!
where do i need to put the kernel? when i go to the mounted mac partition, there are no directories, only files that i can't "cat" or "ls" or anything!
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| puggy wrote: | If you have a different problem to your initial post its best to start a new thread.
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LETS REMIND THEM AGAIN Puggy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| keratos68 wrote: | | puggy wrote: | If you have a different problem to your initial post its best to start a new thread.
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LETS REMIND THEM AGAIN Puggy |
*shrugs* It's only going to lower the chance of the thread being answered succesfully. Not my problem.
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would have helped, too.
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