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R!tman
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 Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: murmur without X |
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Hello!
I was wondering, is it really necessary to install all this stuff in order to get murmur running on my server, which doesn't have an X server installed?
| Code: | # emerge -pv murmur
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N ] x11-misc/util-macros-1.1.5 USE="-debug" 47 kB
[ebuild N ] app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.0.5 42 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/tiff-3.8.2-r2 USE="jpeg zlib -jbig -nocxx" 1,314 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/fontconfig-2.4.2 USE="xml -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/xproto-7.0.10 USE="-debug" 140 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/xextproto-7.0.2 USE="-debug" 67 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/xtrans-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 101 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/inputproto-1.4.2 USE="-debug" 45 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/kbproto-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 57 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/renderproto-0.9.2 USE="-debug" 40 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.2.2 USE="-debug" 39 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/xf86bigfontproto-1.1.2 USE="-debug" 37 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/bigreqsproto-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 36 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/xcmiscproto-1.1.2 USE="-debug" 36 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/randrproto-1.2.1 USE="-debug" 54 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/fixesproto-4.0 USE="-debug" 38 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/glproto-1.4.8 USE="-debug" 53 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/xf86driproto-2.0.3 USE="-debug" 42 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libdrm-2.3.0 USE="-debug" 383 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/fontsproto-2.0.2 USE="-debug" 45 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-proto/fontcacheproto-0.1.2 USE="-debug" 38 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libICE-1.0.3 USE="-debug -ipv6" 242 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXau-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 225 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXdmcp-1.0.2 USE="-debug" 216 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-misc/makedepend-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 106 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libfontenc-1.0.4 USE="-debug" 219 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libX11-1.1.2-r1 USE="-debug -ipv6 -xcb" 1,488 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libSM-1.0.2 USE="-debug -ipv6" 239 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXfont-1.3.0 USE="-debug -ipv6" 569 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXext-1.0.3 USE="-debug" 256 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.2 USE="-debug" 241 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXfixes-4.0.3 USE="-debug" 210 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXt-1.0.5 USE="-debug" 489 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXrandr-1.2.1 USE="-debug" 216 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXcursor-1.1.8 USE="-debug" 246 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXmu-1.0.3 USE="-debug -ipv6" 290 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.0.1 USE="-debug" 223 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXi-1.1.2 USE="-debug" 262 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/mesa-6.5.2-r1 USE="nptl -debug -doc -hardened -motif -xcb" VIDEO_CARDS="i810 mach64 mga r128 radeon s3virge savage sis tdfx trident via -none (-sunffb)" 3,218 kB
[ebuild N ] virtual/opengl-7.0 0 kB
[ebuild N ] virtual/glu-7.0 0 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-4.3.1-r1 USE="gif jpeg mysql opengl png ssl tiff zlib -accessibility -cups -dbus -debug -doc -examples -firebird -glib -mng -nas -nis -odbc -pch -postgres -qt3support -sqlite -sqlite3 -xinerama" INPUT_DEVICES="-wacom" 42,109 kB
[ebuild N ] media-sound/murmur-0.9.4-r1 USE="-pch" 245 kB
Total: 43 packages (43 new), Size of downloads: 53,944 kB |
Has anyone got this to work without all that stuff?
Cheers,
R!tman |
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gerard27
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hi R!tman,
Murmur was written in qt4.
That's why.
Gerard.
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Rcomian
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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The problem is that murmur is written using QT, which is primarily a windowing framework (yes, it can be used very successfully for non-X stuff, but it basic genesis was GUI's), so that's the main problem. QT itself depends directly on a load of X libraries without the option of turning off those dependencies with a use flag.
These are runtime dependencies as well, so you can't even reliably remove them afterwards. However, if you're not using X at all, and murmur is the only QT application, you can experiment with removing some of those extra packages, but to be honest it's a lot of work that's likely to break you at some random point in the past. Not to mention that these libraries will keep coming back :/
I think for murmur, you'll just have to live with the extra bloat. It's down to the decision by the murmur authors to use QT, QT is a fairly heavyweight framework. |
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R!tman
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your replies!
I've got a static precompiled version of murmur running right now without having any qt deps and without qt itself installed... but it's simply not the gentoo way  !
I noticed it's qt based, however, for a server application this seem a little counter-intuitive, at least to me!
Hmm... well, I guess I'll have to live with that  , since I _really_ don't want to install all that stuff on my small (and slow) home server. |
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