Roy is gone... Should I Leave Gentoo

d2_racing · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:19 am Post subject:

Yeah Gentoo in third place

vermaden · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:24 am Post subject:

UberLord · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:48 am Post subject:

vermaden · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:56 am Post subject:

UberLord · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:45 am Post subject:

The FreeBSD project do not think it stable, otherwise they would mark it as so - no matter what you or others may think.
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vermaden · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:07 am Post subject:

UberLord · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:35 am Post subject:

Obviously your world view of CVS branching, tagging and the BETA keyword differ from mine.

But if you claim it's STABLE, please point me to a STABLE iso I can download right now?
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vermaden · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:36 am Post subject:

UberLord · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:55 am Post subject:

d2_racing · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject:

vermaden · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:45 pm Post subject:

First you scream about fud which is totally bullshit.

Then you stick to BETA keyword as hard as you can and want link for STABLE.

Then you claim that you know FreeBSD branching process greatly but you did not knew very basic things such as that BETA are just snapshots from STABLE branch.

And when all your complaints are destroyed by arguments you scream for RELEASE saying that STABLE is not stable.

And you say that you are "fed up arguing"?

Get real kid and provide ANY REAL arguments instead of all this bullshit.

steveL · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject:

I don't know about anyone else, but I find the way you have gone straight to swearing at people quite offensive, vermaden. There was no need for it.

nixnut · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject:

vermaden · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject:

Kasumi_Ninja · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject:

Bill Cosby · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject:

@vermaden,
I agree.
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UberLord · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject:

Kensai · Guru Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 569 Location: Puerto Rico

UberLord, Yeah, I know what you are talking about:

TheNewOsiris · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Posts: 91

Well, if portage/emerge is giving you troubles, mate, you could always switch (at least temporarily) to Paludis or Pkgcore. At the moment paludis is quite a bit ahead of portage and pkgcore in regards to features, speed/performance, repositories, config files, and coding practices. However, this is, of course, inclined to change in the future as gentoo/portage/emerge devs re-organize themselves.

And yes it is possible that Roy won't maintain baselayout2. But guess what, my friend. The very nature of opensource allows other talented and intelligent people to raise dead projects if need be.

Cheers.

UberLord · Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: Broken Portage/Devs Leaving

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Dagger · Retired Dev Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 765 Location: UK

I will glagly give FreeBSD 7.0 a try when stable become stable

So far it didn't impress me, maybe because I never had enough time to play with it.
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d2_racing · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject:

Simba7 · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:54 am Post subject:

Jeez.. I mention FreeBSD and all of a sudden a massive sh*tstorm engulfs the entire board.. Grrr..

FreeBSD does do some things better, and Gentoo Linux does other things better. I am not bashing either one and am looking forward to building a solid firewall with Gentoo. I currently have one built with FreeBSD 7.0-BETA1.

The definition of "Stable" in my world would mean "doesn't crash or degrade while subject to massive traffic", meaning for a firewall, if someone pulls a DDoS attack, it doesn't go down. It takes it and says "GIVE ME MORE, YOU WUSS!!"

The main reason I wanted to try out Gentoo for this project is because of support for a specific card, the 3Com 3c515-TX. This ISA card is supported in OpenBSD and NetBSD, but I'm more suited for FreeBSD. The major turn off was the FreeBSD boards saying "Just put in a different card". This DOESN'T solve my problem. I wanted to use THIS card, not some other. After all, I have 6 of them. That's when I looked at my Gentoo box and thought "Hmmmm.." and decided to try it out on my router/firewall.

Plus, I'm a little skiddish on running x.0 on anything production. I learned the hard way with 5.0 and 6.0. I usually wait until .1 or .2 comes out. That would be considered "STABLE", not "RELEASE".

Oh, and the FreeBSD 7.x branch probably won't become stable until at least 7.2. THAT could be considered FreeBSD-STABLE, not FreeBSD-RELEASE. But keep your CVS up to date if you bump into problems.

How long have you been using FreeBSD, vermaden?