2007.1? Or perhaps 2008.0.

Dagger · Retired Dev Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 765 Location: UK

who cares about 2007.1? Isn't it better to hope for a good 2008.0 release?
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merged some duplicate threads.
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d2_racing · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject:

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d2_racing · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject:

Yeah Knoppix can do the trick

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anton123 · Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject:

I really hope for a great 2008.0 release if the 2007.1 is out of question. I always use the LiveCD as I like to be presented with options that I can make use of, one of them being just testing the LiveCD on any Pentium 2 +/amd + machine. Besides, the GUI installer although complex in technical terms (not hard to use if you know what you do) is a welcome and pleasant addition in the way of installing Gentoo besides the traditional command line (again not hard to do if you know what you do but a nice GUI adds spice and makes the process faster to complete till install point). I REALLY hope that the GUI installer in 2008.0/2007.1 to be reliable and solid unlike the one in the 2007.0 version which was fundamentally buggy and unreliable.

meush · n00b Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 8

I use ubuntu now because it's the only linux I found that has fresh enough kernel to work well with my new hardware. LiveCD would be great for me, and for many other people.
I understand developers have their own lifes, too

so take your time, but consider us, who really need LiveCD to install gentoo.
I know that when gentoo is already installed, release numbers make no sence, because emerging world does the trick. But don't make me use ubuntu please

Simba7 · Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:29 pm Post subject:

Ya. I can't wait 'til 2007.1 or 2008.0 comes out. My ppc (PMac 6500/300) doesn't like the kernel in 2007.0 for some strange reason. It freezes up after it finds the hard drive.

When I try out a different kernel (compiling Gentoo via Ubuntu), it works fine (kernel 2.6.20), but is a pain in the butt going through several more steps and getting the timing right.

Naib · Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject:

you could always just boot off a different LiveCD (Ubuntu install CD for instance) then you just have to worry about the out-dated stage tarballs... which is the bigger issue if you ask me
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Gentoo is a one install linux. After the first installation, people just change profile to update instead of one release one installation. But I think period release is still necessary and one year one release is enough. Why? the first reason is for new comer and second is for reinstall if some fatal things happen and can't be solved. So, I suggest gentoo to release 2008 instead of 2008.0 in next year.
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nixnut · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject:

merged above post here.
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Naib · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject:

NeddySeagoon · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject:

Naib,

... Gentoo and other distros rely on someone elses kernel, KDE, GNOME, etc.
Why is an installer any different ?
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Naib · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject:

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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject:

Naib,

My own view is that an installer is not nessacary or even desirable for gentoo. A minimal CD of the tools required to do the rest by hand ensures that users gain some understanding of the maintanence process they will use on Gentoo before they have their precious data on it.
Gentoo should not have an installer as it provides users with a false sense of security.

That leaves us with some minimal toolkit of some sort to do the install, akin to the (outdated) minimal CD we do have.
Clearly, even this has never suited everyone or the alternate install guide would not exist.

I like you analagy with LFS. Isn't Gentoo LFS+Portage.

Gentoo Installer Releases serve as a focal point for publicity, little more.
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Naib · Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject:

miso5 · n00b Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Sheffield

Not need live cd but it need CD that will have installer and handbook.
If you will not see it in graphic or semi-graphic gui. I can live with that even I can write more command as long as it will not be plenty ways ok.
I Just want something stable and without known bugs.
So as I sayed about opensuse 10.3 When distribution is still on testing. It doesn't have to go out.
My problem is that kernel in old-ones doesnt support mine raid.
Although I am angry with Ubuntu only m problem now is the question if to wait or change to some temporary distro till that.
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NeddySeagoon · Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject:

miso5,

Shrink your Ubuntu install and install Gentoo, using your Ubuntu as a toolkit.
You can use Ubuntu to read the manual.

Gentoo needs a considerable investment in time to learn, its not really suitable as a 'temporary distro'.
However, installing beside Ubuntu gives you plenty of time. It will also give you todays Gentoo.

Keep in mind that Gentoo is not really a distro, its a set of tools that you use to make your own distro.

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This thread discusses installing from Ubuntu
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miso5 · n00b Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 8 Location: Sheffield

NeddySeagoon:
Ive got gentoo on another PC (In another country).
If I want temporary distribution I mean distribution till new gentoo will be released.
because I am upset by ubuntu. I can read manual whle instaling but my problem is still the kernel.
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