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Yamakasi Apprentice
Joined: 28 Sep 2002 Posts: 201
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 12:20 pm Post subject: Installing Gentoo 1.4 on a 1.2 gig hd |
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Hi ppl,
I want to install Gentoo on a old system. I wanna make an authoritative Dns server.
I have a 1.2 gig hardisk.
My questions are:
Is it enought to install gentoo?
How big is the portage?
Thx all |
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frippz Guru
Joined: 22 Aug 2002 Posts: 460 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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I managed to install Gentoo onto a 850 MB drive. The minimum margin went down to 10 megs, so I'd say you're ok to. Might be worth mentioning that I did the install from a stage3. I think that the bootstrap process will hog more disk space.
What do you mean with how big portage is? Do you mean the size of /usr/portage/ or all the distfiles or what? |
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dol-sen Retired Dev
Joined: 30 Jun 2002 Posts: 2805 Location: Richmond, BC, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 5:45 am Post subject: |
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If you have another gentoo system then set it up as a nfs server for your /usr/portage directory. It will save more downloading and thus install faster. And yes 1.2gig is too small for a stage1 install. _________________ Brian
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rbacon2 n00b
Joined: 19 Sep 2002 Posts: 21
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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As a matter of interest, does anyone happen to have the output of
after untarring a 1.4rc4 stage3?
I'm at work with no access to my boxen, but I have an old 486 I want to use as a firewall/print server but has a very small HD. _________________ Cheers,
Richard |
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HeartBreakKid Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 13 Jun 2003 Posts: 76
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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How much space do you need for a stage 1 install? I have a PC that I want to do a stage1 on, but is 4G enough harddrive space? |
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Biker Apprentice
Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 170 Location: A very dark, cold and moisty place...
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:51 pm Post subject: Installing Gentoo 1.4 on a 1.2 gig hd |
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HeartBreakKid wrote: | I have a PC that I want to do a stage1 on, but is 4G enough harddrive space? |
That's plenty. I've just done a stage1 on a 2 * 1.2 GB setup.
Gus |
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atac Apprentice
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 234 Location: haninge, swe
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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hmm, so i should be set with a 2 - 2,2 gb hdd if i mount /usr/portage/distfiles via nfs ? _________________ 1 + 1 + 1 = 11 |
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rbacon2 n00b
Joined: 19 Sep 2002 Posts: 21
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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OK, home again and I've answered my own question.
Code: | bash-2.05b$ du --max-depth=1 -B MB
5 ./bin
1 ./dev
1 ./etc
5 ./lib
1 ./mnt
1 ./opt
1 ./tmp
10 ./var
361 ./usr
1 ./boot
1 ./home
1 ./proc
4 ./sbin
1 ./root
384 .
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Now to identify the 'bloat' _________________ Cheers,
Richard |
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sofakng n00b
Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 16
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm installing from stage 1.
After stage 1 (eg. bootstrap) is done, does it clean all of the temporary files out? I'm not sure that I understand why stage 3 would be any larger than stage 1.
I'm also installing Gentoo on a smaller hard drive (from stage 1) and am concerned about disk space. |
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Senso Apprentice
Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Posts: 250 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Same here, I'd like to install stage 1 on my first 'real' computer: An old P90 with a ~2GB hard drive. I'll try it as soon as I move in my new apart (about 2 weeks). I think I have 32mb RAM so it's gonna take a week. |
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dol-sen Retired Dev
Joined: 30 Jun 2002 Posts: 2805 Location: Richmond, BC, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 5:30 am Post subject: |
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Stage 1 install builds the tools to build a system with, after it's done you have a stage2 build . Then after the stage 2 instructions are done you have a stage3 system built. Then emerge the apps & desktops you desire for your sysytem.
That's why a stage 3 is much bigger than a stage 1.
As for a P90 with 32meg ram, you better be prepared for 2-3 weeks. You may also have to use slackwares low resource install bootfloppy because the gentoo install kernel NEEDS 64 meg ram to work properly. But I thought I saw a post that someone did install with only 32 meg, It did nearly everything in swap memrory as the root filesystem is in ramdisks. _________________ Brian
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Senso Apprentice
Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Posts: 250 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 10:37 am Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure the Gentoo stats have a few computers with less than 32 megs, though I don't remember the numbers.
Oh well, I might buy a 64megs stick, it's cheap enough. |
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dol-sen Retired Dev
Joined: 30 Jun 2002 Posts: 2805 Location: Richmond, BC, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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GEntoo can run on less than 64 meg if installed for it. Some have gentoo running with 24 meg. It is the installer kernel that requires 64 meg of ram to work correctly. You configure your own kernel and keep it trimmed down to run without hogging the memory for itself, leaving more memory to run apps & services.
The best way to install gentoo on a computer with less than 64 meg ram is to use another computer with more memory & install it to temp relocated destination hard drive, then re-install it back to the desired computer. _________________ Brian
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Senso Apprentice
Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Posts: 250 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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So, I could plug my 2gb HD on a faster computer, install everything and plug it back into my old 32meg RAM box. This machine doesn't have any special hardware so a generic basic kernel would work, I guess. And if there's a problem, only the kernel would need recompiling, not all the ebuilds.
That's what I'm gonna try. |
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