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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 12:20 pm    Post subject: Installing Gentoo 1.4 on a 1.2 gig hd Reply with quote

Hi ppl,

I want to install Gentoo on a old system. I wanna make an authoritative Dns server.
I have a 1.2 gig hardisk.
My questions are:

Is it enought to install gentoo?
How big is the portage?


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2003 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed to install Gentoo onto a 850 MB drive. The minimum margin went down to 10 megs, so I'd say you're ok to. Might be worth mentioning that I did the install from a stage3. I think that the bootstrap process will hog more disk space.

What do you mean with how big portage is? Do you mean the size of /usr/portage/ or all the distfiles or what?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2003 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have another gentoo system then set it up as a nfs server for your /usr/portage directory. It will save more downloading and thus install faster. And yes 1.2gig is too small for a stage1 install.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a matter of interest, does anyone happen to have the output of
Code:
du -k /mnt/gentoo

after untarring a 1.4rc4 stage3?

I'm at work with no access to my boxen, but I have an old 486 I want to use as a firewall/print server but has a very small HD.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much space do you need for a stage 1 install? I have a PC that I want to do a stage1 on, but is 4G enough harddrive space?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 2:51 pm    Post subject: Installing Gentoo 1.4 on a 1.2 gig hd Reply with quote

HeartBreakKid wrote:
I have a PC that I want to do a stage1 on, but is 4G enough harddrive space?


That's plenty. I've just done a stage1 on a 2 * 1.2 GB setup.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm, so i should be set with a 2 - 2,2 gb hdd if i mount /usr/portage/distfiles via nfs ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, home again and I've answered my own question.
Code:
bash-2.05b$ du --max-depth=1 -B MB
5       ./bin
1       ./dev
1       ./etc
5       ./lib
1       ./mnt
1       ./opt
1       ./tmp
10      ./var
361     ./usr
1       ./boot
1       ./home
1       ./proc
4       ./sbin
1       ./root
384     .


Now to identify the 'bloat' :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm installing from stage 1.

After stage 1 (eg. bootstrap) is done, does it clean all of the temporary files out? I'm not sure that I understand why stage 3 would be any larger than stage 1.

I'm also installing Gentoo on a smaller hard drive (from stage 1) and am concerned about disk space.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2003 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here, I'd like to install stage 1 on my first 'real' computer: An old P90 with a ~2GB hard drive. I'll try it as soon as I move in my new apart (about 2 weeks). I think I have 32mb RAM so it's gonna take a week. :)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stage 1 install
Code:
bootstrap.sh
builds the tools to build a system with, after it's done you have a stage2 build
Code:
emerge system
. Then after the stage 2 instructions are done you have a stage3 system built. Then emerge the apps & desktops you desire for your sysytem.

That's why a stage 3 is much bigger than a stage 1.

As for a P90 with 32meg ram, you better be prepared for 2-3 weeks. You may also have to use slackwares low resource install bootfloppy because the gentoo install kernel NEEDS 64 meg ram to work properly. But I thought I saw a post that someone did install with only 32 meg, It did nearly everything in swap memrory as the root filesystem is in ramdisks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure the Gentoo stats have a few computers with less than 32 megs, though I don't remember the numbers.

Oh well, I might buy a 64megs stick, it's cheap enough.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GEntoo can run on less than 64 meg if installed for it. Some have gentoo running with 24 meg. It is the installer kernel that requires 64 meg of ram to work correctly. You configure your own kernel and keep it trimmed down to run without hogging the memory for itself, leaving more memory to run apps & services.

The best way to install gentoo on a computer with less than 64 meg ram is to use another computer with more memory & install it to temp relocated destination hard drive, then re-install it back to the desired computer.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2003 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I could plug my 2gb HD on a faster computer, install everything and plug it back into my old 32meg RAM box. This machine doesn't have any special hardware so a generic basic kernel would work, I guess. And if there's a problem, only the kernel would need recompiling, not all the ebuilds.

That's what I'm gonna try.
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