Official thread: "zen-sources"

Waninkoko · Guru Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 549

*mod edit* - length split - continued here -- think4urs11

"zen-sources"
A stable and featurefull kernel patchset.

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tallica · Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject:

Can't wait for stable release! Pretty nice name

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yngwin · Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:09 pm Post subject:

Sounds interesting. I'm looking forward to the first "stable" release.

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likewhoa · Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject:

change is good, git ftw!

oRDeX · Veteran Joined: 19 Oct 2003 Posts: 1325 Location: Italy

waiting for stable release here, but i think "kamikaze" was a pretty name

charlie · n00b Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 36

I do not like the name zen. The name suggests to my mind a state of alien peace. Where as kamikaze suggests to me a willingness to plunge ahead regardless of any consequences.

Zen suggests to my mind an unwillingness to change if the current situtation is: if ain't broke don't fix it. That unfaithful saying is contrary to the spirit of this statement: "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard."

Furthermore if I had a girl and a boy I would name the girl Zen and the boy Kamikazee.

mbar · Veteran Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 1990 Location: Poland

thanks for the info and I concur with charlie's "name thingy"

kamikaze > zen

likewhoa · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:12 am Post subject:

i don't care if it's called "fairy-sources" it's still a bleeding edge linux kernel.

waiting for release.

hirakendu · Guru Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 386 Location: san diego

yeah, kamikaze sounded more mercurial

. (so did skunk sources ?

) whats in a name ?

. (best ones were i guess nitro- and viper-

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Dottout · l33t Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 882

cloning..

kernelOfTruth · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject:

*subscribes*

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- LONG LIVE THE KING :roll:

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Dottout · l33t Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 882

Miguel are you going to release a git ebuild also? something like -999.ebuild would be nice

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This what you needed to talk to me about? No biggie...but the next time I'm online, and you see...contact me...if you still need to.

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ilikenwf · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 119

If any of you use Ubuntu or one of it's derivatives, or Debian on one of your other boxes, I am going to maintain deb packages, and occasionally release a tarball of the source for config tweakers.
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rmh3093 · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject:

About the "releases" and "ebuids".....

You could theoretically pull from the git repo at any time. I personally believe the git repo should be considered "stable" at anyone time. If you update from our git server regularly then it should be easier for you to identify problems (use 'git bisect' to track down the specific commit). However, I realize some of you want some sort of "tried and tested" indicator so after large numbers of commits or major changes we can update the tags and kernel name/version.

There are lots of ways we can provide ebuilds....
1)an ebuild based on patchs relative to official vanilla releases
2)an ebuild based on patches relative to official daily git snapshots but not based on zen tags
3)an ebuild based on patches relative to official daily git snapshots but based on zen tags
4)a live ebuild which pulls from git directly - HEAD
5)a live ebuild which pulls from git directly - tag

OR

you could just clone the repo an pull when you want to update

BETTER SPEAK UP IF YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE!
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ocin · Guru Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 500

1 or 5

eremini · Apprentice Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 157

As long as there are stable releases which I can use on a productive server it's all good

dodo1122 · Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:18 am Post subject:

4 and 1 please ;-)

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yngwin · Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:33 am Post subject:

at least #1
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kernelOfTruth · Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:44 am Post subject:

StifflerStealth · Retired Dev Joined: 03 Jul 2002 Posts: 968

I like the idea of ebuilds pulling in from a tag so that it is known to be working purely. The head has the feel of something that is just committed and untested.

likewhoa · Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:49 am Post subject:

one & five
can't wait to test this out.

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